1891 CC $10 need help with authentication

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Dynoking, Apr 26, 2022.

  1. Dynoking

    Dynoking Well-Known Member

    This coin is up for auction. The placement of the mint mark is in a different location when compared to coins on PCGS. Is this coin genuine, altered or counterfeit?
    1891 CC $10 Rev.jpeg 1891 CC $10 Obv.jpeg 1891 CC $10 PCGS.jpeg 1891 CC $10 PCGS 2.jpeg
     
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  3. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

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  4. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    The date placement also looks off and to the left.
     
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  5. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

    My thoughts are not genuine and the seller sure doesn't care enough to crimp down those staples.
     
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  6. Dave Waterstraat

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  7. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    Holding a 5-7X on the screen may assist in identifying a genuine whizzed and tooled and puttied piece.
     
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  8. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    So far IMO, there are only three things "off" in this thread.
     
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  9. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    I meant to also mention I suspect this was a Jewelry piece, but I got distracted by her asking for lipstick money again. It really annoys me saying "no" all the time. Some people don't learn.
     
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  10. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    Then state what they are and help the member asking the question. It is not going to offend anybody if you have a different opinion.

    I will even volunteer to be your huckleberry, and help the member out, for 3 things:

    1) I stated whizzed. Is it?

    2) I stated tooled. Is it?

    3) I stated puttied. Is it?
     
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  11. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    Looks whizzed and cleaned but looks legit to me! :cigar:
     
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  12. Dynoking

    Dynoking Well-Known Member

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  13. Dynoking

    Dynoking Well-Known Member

    Insider?
     
  14. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    I don't see anything that leads me to think it's a fake. It has obviously been physically cleaned. Mintmarks were punched into the working dies before they were sent from Phil .to the branch mints. Nothing unusual about varying mm placements.
     
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  15. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Dynoking,

    Read my post again: ;)

    I posted: "So far IMO, there are only three things "off" in this thread."

    I'm not the forum police; however, I wish more folks here would do what I try to do.

    I don't comment on things I don't know about. It is especially silly when the member writes that they know nothing about ______ and then gives an opinion. How can you have an intelligent opinion about something you know nothing about?

    Another thing. Anyone can say something they know nothing about looks "off." If you are going to post a worthless comment WHY NOT EXPLAIN WHAT EXACTLY LOOKS "OFF" to you at the least? That may elicit more useful comments as has happened in this thread.

    :rage: over. Carry on. :D:p
     
  16. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

    Yes my response was silly as I was leaning towards counterfeit for being not certified.This coin is a high end AU to possible low MS example.Incliding it might be a details coin also.But even as being the most common CC gold liberty eagle date its a $2,000 coin minimum.Especially for gold(not a junk piece) why not get it certified?not all coins need to.But I do think this coin is slab worthy and if certified the coin would bring much more money most likely.
     
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  17. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Geez,if you have something to say, just say it. Snide remarks, and gamesmanship are poor teaching tools. If you know so much, then why not bestow the wisdom you’ve garnered upon us mortals.
     
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  18. Dynoking

    Dynoking Well-Known Member

    I was leaning towards counterfeit for being not certified. The first red flag!
    Including it might be a details coin also. The second abet smaller red flag!
    But even as being the most common CC gold liberty eagle date it's a $2,000 coin minimum. Re-read first red flag!
    Bravo Master P!
     
  19. Dynoking

    Dynoking Well-Known Member

    Agreed. But your first response was just as vague.
    Easy poppa... ...you're the big dog watching over the pups. Gently guide with your knowledge...
     
  20. charley

    charley Well-Known Member


    Hey Mo...whadhe say, whadhe say? nyuknyuknyuk.

    Shaddap...come over here....

    OWOWOW!!!!

    Don't hit me. My mind wanders...I was mentally visualizing Mo, Curly and Larry having this conversation in a coin shop.

    I'm old. Make allowances for that.
     
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  21. Dynoking

    Dynoking Well-Known Member

    See post #18. Thank you for your input. Peace!
     
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