These cents don't make any sense, from my Father's collection

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by rosethe, Mar 9, 2010.

  1. rosethe

    rosethe Junior Member

    Hello all,

    I started to try to inventory some of the bulk of my Father's collection.
    There are endless rolls of wheaties and Lincolns.
    Here's a partial list. I found many, many 'blue books' partially filled (with key dates missing) those are not listed below.
    I don't know how to get a comprehensive list of these cents. :(

    Can anyone tell me WHY he had SO many 1960 D cents? Over 36 rolls. Was he going to search them, someday? Some of the rolls are in clear vials, which I don't think he ever intended on opening, rather he wanted them preserved. I think.
    It seems like the 1960 P are more valuable. I don't think he had any P's.
    There are an awful lot of 1959 D's as well.

    CENTS
    (x23 coins) 1917 D
    (x7 coins) 1917 S
    (x8 coins) 1918 D
    (x8 coins) 1918 S
    (1/2 roll) 1920 D & S
    (x1 coin) 1928
    (x1 coin) 1929 S
    (x32 coins) 1931
    (x7 coins) 1932
    (x7 coins) 1932 D
    (x14 coins) 1933
    (x1 coin) 1935
    (x 1 coin) 1935 S
    (x1 coin) 1936
    (x1 coin) 1937
    (1/2 roll) 1937 D & S
    (x1 coin) 1938 BU in folder
    (x20 coins) 1938 D
    (x1 coin) 1938 D BU in folder
    (x8 coins) 1938 S
    (x9 coins) 1940
    (2/3 roll) 1940 S
    (x10 coins) 1941 XF
    (x1 roll) 1941 S
    (x1 coin) 1942
    (2/3 roll) 1942 S
    (x3 coins) 1943 P,D,S steel
    (1/2 roll) 1944
    (x3 coins) 1944 S
    (x1 coin) 1945 S in folder
    (x10 coins) 1945 EF -AU
    (1/2 roll) 1946
    (x1 coin) 1946 in folder
    (x1 coin) 1947 D
    (x10 coins) 1947 S XF
    (1/2 roll) 1948
    (3/4 roll) 1948 S
    (1/2 roll) 1949
    (x14 coins) 1949 D
    (1/3 roll) 1949 S
    (2/3 roll) 1950
    (x16 coins) 1950 D
    (X20 coins) 1950 D EF-AU
    (1/2 roll) 1950 S
    (x6 coins) 1951
    (x7 coins) 1951 EF
    1951 D
    (x7 coins) 1951 D EF-AU
    (1/2 roll) 1951 S
    (x5 coins) 1952
    (3/4 roll) 1952 D AU
    (3/4 roll) 1952 S
    (x6 coins) 1953 EF-AU-UNC
    (1/2 roll+39 coins) 1953 D
    (x 1 roll) 1953 S
    (x6 coins) 1954
    (x42 coins) 1954 D
    (x27 coins) 1954 D EF-AU
    (2/3 roll +7 coins) 1954 S
    (x1 coin) 1955
    (x16 coins) 1955 EF-AU
    1955 in folder
    (x1 roll) 1955 EF-AU
    (1/2 roll) 1955 D AU
    (x3 coins) 1955S
    (x28 coins) 1955 D
    (x8 coins) 1955 D in folders
    (x1 roll) 1955 D EF-AU
    (x6 coins) 1955 S
    (3/4 roll) 1956 XF
    (x2 rolls) 1956 D
    (x1 roll) 1956 D EF-AU
    (x23 coins) 1956 D AU
    (x 1 roll) 1957
    (x9 rolls) 1957 D AU
    (x10 coins) 1957 D
    (x1 coin) 1958
    1958 in folder
    1958 toned
    (x7 rolls) 1958 AU
    (x39 coins) 1958 AU
    (x6 coins) 1958 AU-UNC
    1958 D AU
    1958 D toned
    (x4 rolls) 1959
    (x7 coins) 1959 AU
    (x12 rolls) 1959 D
    (x8 coins) 1959 D AU
    (x2 rolls) 1960
    (x29 rolls ) 1960 D sm XF-AU
    (x3 rolls) 1960 D sm XF + ASX
    1960 D sm AU
    (x13 rolls) 1960 D sm (not marked)
    1960 D sm AU - BU
    1960 D sm AU- UNC
    (x36 rolls) 1960 D (not marked sm) (not marked)
     
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  3. nss

    nss Gold Plated Member

    >>Can anyone tell me WHY he had SO many 1960 D cents?

    Are they large date or small date?

    Maybe he was trying to corner the market...!
     
  4. LewR

    LewR Junior Member

    Exactly - just like the 51-d Lincoln "scare" and the "Barr" dollar bill ....
     
  5. rosethe

    rosethe Junior Member

    From what I gather (from the bottom of my list) about half of them are actually marked Small, and the last 36 rolls are not marked at all.
    There is a little 4 coin 'proof set' of the varieties (large, small) but I cannot tell the difference:headbang:
    Still, none of them are the more valuable 1960 P :rolleyes:
     
  6. Vess1

    Vess1 CT SP VIP Supporter


    For what this guy had, he just about could have cornered the market! lol That's a good one!

    Good to see you posting and good question. I'll take a wild guess that he probably knew about the large date/small date thing early on. He probably pulled them all out of circulation as he found them. It could be he thought they were worth saving because he might have thought they would become valuable some day. Which, never really panned out for them. But people speculate like that all the time. And if they were just pulled from circulation throughout his life, he didn't really have much invested in them. Wasn't much to lose on the gamble anyway. That's my theory.

    He must have been crazy about Lincoln cents. He would have fit in well on this board.
     
  7. Vess1

    Vess1 CT SP VIP Supporter

    You've got to look really close. Do you have a loupe? I think the redbook shows pretty decent photos of the noticeable differences. Side by side, you should be able to see them if you look hard enough. I think the zeros are quite noticeable in size difference. And the large date 6 has a much larger tail at the top than the small. I think there's more separation from the base of the 6 as well.
     
  8. rosethe

    rosethe Junior Member

    Thanks Vess.

    If you are correct, and he was a speculator, he was definitely trying to 'corner the market' in many denoms.

    There are endless nickels - jeffs, buffs, dimes- mercs, quarters in addition to the cents and silver. I could not even start on them.
    A multitude of circulated wheaties. And jar after jar of random 'dirty' coins that I know for a fact he pulled out of the ground.
    WHAT on earth should I do with the 'masses'?
    Start sorting???:desk:
     
  9. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    My guess is that he was pulling these out in the early 60's. There was a lot of hype about the small dates. From my 64 Red Book, they have actually dropped in value about 50% - both of them. From the looks of that list, he was saving anything and everything that ever had a hope of being valuable. Those actually had more value than most of the rest. As for the 59's, it was the first year of issue. Why not give it a shot.
     
  10. rosethe

    rosethe Junior Member

    Wouldn't even know what a loupe is if it hit me in the head. :crying::p

    Tell me, WHY would I need to know if it is a small date or large date?
    Since they all are 1960 D's they all have the same value in my Red Book (2007)
    Unless he was looking for the 1960 D over D, large date over small date.
    Which I see are VERY valuable.
    Are those two separate entities? A 1960 D over D
    AND/OR a 1960 (D) large date over small date
    or is that referring to one coin?
     
  11. rosethe

    rosethe Junior Member

    That sounded just like him. :bow:
     
  12. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    I will bet I was close on the date also.
     
  13. rosethe

    rosethe Junior Member

    If you mean the years he was pulling them, you are correct sir.
    Mid 60's.

    (He probably had me working as his minion- all the work for a tin of Jiffy Pop)
     
  14. Vess1

    Vess1 CT SP VIP Supporter


    Here you go. They're just mini magnifiers. This is the one I have. I got mine off ebay with a nice velcro lanyard. Mine is a 10x as well.
    http://www.amazon.com/BelOMO-Triplet-Loupe-Folding-Magnifier/dp/B0002OVC9W

    He could have been looking for the 60 large over small too. Good observation. Yeah, that'd be one coin with the sm. date punched over the large date and you would see the edge of another D around the D mintmark. Some are impossible to see by the naked eye.....which is why everybody uses loupes! The way things have been going with that collection, maybe they ALL ARE 60 small over large date, D over D's! lol :D

    As for what to do with everything, that comes up a lot. Seperate the high quality/rarer stuff and start putting the lower grade stuff into appropriate rolls. 100 pennies to a roll. 50 dimes to a roll, etc., etc.. Only way to do it for this much.
     
  15. financeman

    financeman Lincoln Cent Connoisseur

    I will be glad to take all those lincolns off your hands :whistle:
    Have fun sorting them;)
     
  16. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    The 1960-D small dates will certainly occupy your time. If you go to Coppercoins.com, you will find several Doubled die coins, and well over 100 Repunched mint marks. I think there are 160 or more varieties of those. Of course most are not very high valued except for the D/D sm over large date, one of my favorite coins :) I believe Fishaddict just recently found one from circulated rolls, so you now have a challenge !!

    Jim
     
  17. bhp3rd

    bhp3rd Die varieties, Gems

    This was the during roll saving phase of coins that played out by the early to mid 1970's. I've bought many groups that had these 1960's by the 1000's both uncirculated and circ. I think that folks assumed since there was 1960-P SMDT worth a premieum that the 1960-D SMDT's would be valuble - they are not.
    The 1960-P SMDT is easily seen, the 0 is very small compared to the LGDT.
    If these coins are not BU they are mostly not valuble unless one of about 7 of the big 1960-D varieties and then if circualted a very limited market.
    To evaluate coins you must have a loupe, a 5x or 7x is a good place to start - you cannot dabble in coins without one!
     
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