Unknown Coin please help identify

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  1. Chris Sivorn

    Chris Sivorn New Member

    I recently purchased a small coin collection the majority being Silver. In the mix were a couple of ancient coins.
    The larger of the two I have not come across before and it looks a real mess. Has this coin been struck twice? Apologies for the poor images but I hope you can make sense of the images.
     

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  3. Chris Sivorn

    Chris Sivorn New Member

    These are three other ancient coins I have no idea as to their identity so if any one can help please get in touch. EBA97CB8-3EFA-44AD-AEFB-FA0FAA368ED7.jpeg 40506192-A0AD-46B2-82B6-E678216A385E.jpeg 3E91CCD1-A169-4095-B879-EF67DAB4E30F.jpeg 46716FE8-85F6-4B6C-B64A-389D2FBD68E7.jpeg E48EF603-424E-4534-86DE-06EF8C3CAFFC.jpeg E940C438-4816-47E6-8A7A-124EC6ACAFE4.jpeg
     
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  4. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    The first is a large Byzantine follis.

    2. Constantine I’s sons. Commemorative of Constantine I’s death.
    Mint Mark SMANS

    3. Constans. Gloria Exercitvs reverse.
    Mint Mark SMTSA, Thessalonica mint.

    4. Gallienus antoninianus. FORTVNA REDVX reverse
     
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  5. Chris Sivorn

    Chris Sivorn New Member

    Thank you very much, I honestly had no idea. I can now label them correctly. In regards to the large follis has this coin been restruck? The lettering is such a jumble and at different angles.
     
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  6. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    Likely so. Many of those early folles were overstruck. Yours has a very nice depiction of Christ. Most I see have a worn smooth face.
     
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  7. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    @Chris Sivorn
    Welcome to CoinTalk
    There is also an Ancient Coins forum here on CT.
    Next time you have questions regarding Ancients you can also create your threads there.
     
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  8. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    I am not an ancient's collector but wanted to welcome you to CT. Good luck.
     
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  9. Black Friar

    Black Friar Well-Known Member

    It is indeed puzzling piece. This one took a bit of head scratching and time as the host coin looks like an anonymous follis. However the portrait of the emperor could not be struck on a coin from several years in the future.

    The reverse at first glance appears to be an anonymous follis. It is in fact a follis of Nicephorus II, Phocas 963-969 (Sear 1783) struck over a follis of Constantine VII joint reign with Romanus II (Sear 1760). It took a bit of coin rotating and backtracking detective work for me before I figured it out. Thank you David Sear, and the Dumbarton Oaks Collection.

    Chris, that is a very fun coin hold onto it and dazzle your friends. Byzantine coinage can some times be a challenge. I love puzzles.
     
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