PCGS sub 2022 - Guess the Grade (Part 1 of 5)

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  1. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    The Liberty's of today, Hey, I like that send me a video of the luster.
     
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  3. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    And the big reveal....
    NGC MS 63 STAR
    PCGS MS 63
    ....I was thinking it had a chance of being a 63+ or 64 but PCGS didn't add a color bump....I don't like giving up stars but the market value is higher in the PCGS holder along with the TrueView photo (even if I don't personally agree with that, I know the general market does)....regardless this coin is a keeper for the foreseeable future


    NGC slab photo is below; I'm not showing the PCGS photo so that you all can't figure out the other grades by running through the cert numbers :p (plus I didn't take a new slab photo yet)

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  4. ddddd

    ddddd Member

  5. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Should have gotten the color bump. Boooo, on PCGS.
     
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  6. mlov43

    mlov43 주화 수집가

    Why am I not surprised I was wrong?
     
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  7. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    You gave the grade I thought PCGS should have awarded the coin :D
     
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  8. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    I'm biased but I do agree
     
  9. ifthevamzarockin

    ifthevamzarockin Well-Known Member

    NGC MS-63*
    PCGS MS-63

    :D
     
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  10. ddddd

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  11. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    I really didn't think that both of them would go so conservative.
    I can't argue with the grade.
    It's a pretty coin.
     
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  12. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    They like to do that when I send coins in. :(:p
     
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  13. COOPER12

    COOPER12 Well-Known Member

    Dang the 63 star sounds more appealing than a plain 63
     
  14. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    To some yes (and I like stars quite a bit) but generally speaking, the toner market will price a colorful toner in a PCGS holder higher than one in the same grade with a star at NGC.
     
  15. mlov43

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    Yeah, I'm wondering if we can change our guesses, or if this is like school where you can get in trouble if you do that...
     
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  16. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    You won't get in trouble from me :)
     
  17. ddddd

    ddddd Member

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  18. Skyman

    Skyman Well-Known Member

    I would have guessed 64 to 64. I would have added the color bump. Nice Morgan!
     
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  19. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Absolutely! I could not believe that PCGS did not go at least 64, to match the NGC star. Makes no sense.
     
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  20. jtlee321

    jtlee321 Well-Known Member

    This is why I am contemplating sending my '85-O in to PCGS. But it will take a trip to CAC first.
     
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  21. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    If you are looking to maximize the future (resale) value, then it makes sense to send it to PCGS. One thing to consider is how much risk you are willing to take. I think your coin is a lock 65 (many of us thought it could even be nicer) but you never know how conservative a TPG will be on the next grading. The coin is worth more as an NGC 65 star than a PCGS 64. A crossover sub eliminates your risk but it does add a bias. I'd probably risk the crackout option if sending to PCGS. But I've been known to be wrong before, so don't just listen to my opinion (make your own call based on the pros and cons as you see them). Also, if it were to get a gold cac, then I wouldn't dare crack it.
     
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