Brain Teaser Tuesday

What could cause this effect on a coin?




Also, my apologies.
I've recently reversed my opinion about the "Ignore" function. So, I'm going to see how many of my inconsequential CT friends I can remove from my sight.
Life is too short to deal with nonsense. I only wish the forum was designed so that anyone I place on "Ignore" could no longer see any of my posts.

 

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Sorry Potty, You won't ever qualify to make my new list. You know too much. YOU FORGOT TO VOTE IN THE POLL!

 

I did vote.

 

The section of the coin shown looks fairly consistent with a double strike, rotated in collar to me.

Patiently awaiting the reveal!

 

Feel bad for anyone who votes for option 6 they already know the answerI went with counterfeit,besides the questionable speckled color pattern on th coin it just doesn't look right to me. Sure does look possible for a double strike,the overall appearance of the coin changed my mind or is that the trick.

 

Agreed with a double struck. Planchet moved between strikes

 

I went with double struck. Fun coin.

 

I went with counterfeit simply because it should have shown up decades ago if it were done at the US Mint.

 

I've seen a few like that but only after a night of heavy alcohol consumption....no he didn't....

 

Point of order: how can you have a "Double struck" that isn't "Overstruck"?

 

I view it this way:

Double struck = two strikes on a planchet from the same die

Overstrike = two strikes on a planchet from two different dies, with the first strike being the “undertype”

An example of an overstrike would be the 1795 Flowing Hair Dollar struck on a 1794, one of the Brazilian 960 Reis coins struck on a crown sized coin from elsewhere (typically a Spanish 8 Reales), or the numerous Spanish maravedii from the 1600s, some of which even have two different undertypes. There are more recent examples of overstrikes, however.

 

Makes sense. Of course, we can't be sure that both strikes are from the same die without seeing the entire coin. I mean, there might be two different dates!

 

My votes in.
Is this someone's submission @Insider

 

Tell me what you learn from this thread.

 

Double struck.

 

Double struck in the collar ...

 

I went with counterfeit because it looks like it was done with false dies. It would be nice to see the rest of the coin though lol

 

This thread made me think about what was possible with the coin. That's fun to me. Don't think I have seen a coin like this.

 

jeffB, posted: "Makes sense. Of course, we can't be sure that both strikes are from the same die without seeing the entire coin. I mean, there might be two different dates!"

Good thinking! Looking up the definition of "overstrike" for yourself should have made @Omegaraptor reply more clear.

Overstrike: "A coin made using a previously struck coin as the planchet.

We'll discuss this later after I post other images.