Coin show robbery on Sunday

That happens all the time at shows. Dealers arent going to pack up just to go to the bathroom. Theft is fairly common at bigger shows unfortunately

 

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It doesn't take a mask to steal. Where the heck was security?

 

Probably my favorite Animals song from that time.

 

At the Baltimore Show we had to register and present our drivers license before entry. I'm going to suggest this to the shows organizer. Thanks.

 

Maybe like our clubs last show, outside sitting in his car. Our show is held at the county fairgrounds and they insist that security be provided by the County Sheriff's Dept. So we contract with the dept. to provide security from an hour before the show starts to and hour after it ends. (one day show) They don't show up until FIVE hours after the show opens, and proceed to just sit in their car outside in the parking lot. We went and told them it would be a good thing if they were actually inside providing security. So they got out of the car, went in, walked through the floor, and went back out to their car. They weren't inside more than 5 minutes. This is the second year in a row they have done this.

 

No security. I think thats going to change.

 

I would never set foot in a show that wants to copy down my drivers license.

 

Same here. If they require that, I'm out the door until the policy changes.
That would be a great hit list for the bad guys. I have never been to a show that required ID.

 

Exactly. I would never trust a bunch of random people at a desk with that type of info. Theres really no reason they need it and have no way to verify it

 

Nothing was copied from the license. Just verified my photo, name and address to my info on the entry form. Perhaps if we did that at Melville we wouldn't have the problem we have now.

 

Copied down and verified how? They have no way to actually verify it.

 

Not copied down by them. I put my name and address on the entry form. That information is compared to my photo ID. My photo is matched to my unmasked face. I'm issued a temp decal with my first name on it. I place the decal on my outer garment for the policeman at the door to the bourse to see.
Come on BB, it's not that difficult.

 

Youre missing the entire point. They're copying down info they have no way to verify. ID verification takes a government data base. They're just taking your info to take it, thats a hard no for me

 

THere is a show in Delaware that wanted to do the same, you fill in your name and address on a 4 x 6 card, they examine your license to ensure accuracy. Like baseball21 I was reluctant, and gave them a prior address explaining I had just moved. They accepted that and I was in.

 

To kinda of quote Dickens but not, we live in the best of times and the worst of times.

 

Well then I'll miss you at Baltimore, but your'er welcome to come to Melville. No ID required, admission is free and I'd love to meet you! Peace.

 

I understand the concern about ID's and information being written down. Obviously, it appears security is an issue and they really had none. That's the problem with many small shows.

I've been to shows where security was tight and where there was no security.

Possibly there is a way to improve security without having to show an ID. Video surveillance is a great way to increase security and make it known at the door that the cameras are ON. Also place enough cameras in the show so that everyone coming and going would be filmed as well as some directed at the dealer's tables.

The other thing that can be done is to have all the dealers give receipts for the coins they sell and as a person leaves the show, they have to show the receipt. I know coins are easy to stick in your pocket and carry out but, having to show a receipt for your purchase shouldn't be a problem. I also know many dealers don't want to give receipts for cash sales but, it would help improve security. From looking at the video the man is seen carrying the box out. If he was stopped at the door and asked to prove what he was carrying was his this may not have happened. At most shows I've been to the dealers are all registered and normally would have some type of dealer pass to be on the floor before the show opened and after the show closed. So, carrying a box of coins out should have been questioned.

 

From the linked story:

They weren't posing as dealers or customers at that point. They were fleeing. Successfully, at least for now.

 

None of these things actually improve security all they do is give random people a lot of info about you. The only way to actually improve security is for dealers to be vigilant and lock their cases if they need to leave. Cops around help as well but someone willing to steal several thousand, 10s of thousands, or 100s of thousands isnt going to care about someone checking their receipts. If anything youre just going to get some random person severely injured or killed thats working the door. The only real way to stop it is to prevent it from happening.

It sucks things like this happen but to some extent there is some blame for making it so easy to steal it. Setting up at a show or not I'd never just leave a half million dollars in a bin like that where anyone could just grab it and run. You dont need Fort Knox security on the inventory, but if youre that careless about it its probably going to happen at some point in todays climate

 

I'll have to take a rain check on it, Sunday is Easter. Maybe I'll catch the next one.