Brutally honest opinion required UPDATE

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by expat, Apr 7, 2022.

  1. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    The bag marks are an eye sore, but all Morgans are collectable in any condition in my opinion. Thanks for sharing your beauty.
     
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  3. Tamaracian

    Tamaracian 12+ Yr Member--Supporter

    @expat IMO, irrespective of the VAM (the photos aren't sharp enough for me to confirm), the price he is asking is quite fair for what the Seller predicts will grade an MS-61. For comparison, here is a PCGS MS-61 GSA Holdered coin that sold on GC in September '21 for $354+, which is busier with contact marks on the prime facial area than the coin being offered to you:

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  4. charley

    charley Well-Known Member


    If the piece was viewed in hand with a 5X or 7X, would it possibly be appealing, or is consideration of whether a piece has appeal or not only possible with ridiculously oversized photos, with artificial lighting that may or may not be accurate?
     
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  5. charley

    charley Well-Known Member



    What is the determination that the bag marks are a distraction, and/or that what is perceived to be bag marks are bag marks?
     
  6. expat

    expat Remember you are unique, just like everyone else Supporter

    I guess, if your (my) luck is in, they will be luster breaks and not many bag marks.
     
  7. Jersey magic man

    Jersey magic man Supporter! Supporter

    I said "for me". It might be the greatest coin for someone else, just not for me.
     
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  8. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    @Charlie Thomas The marks often take my eyes directly to them. Most often bag marks do not distract from TPG standards. If you noticed I stated “In my opinion.” I admire your Morgan that is the importance of my opinion. Good luck
     
  9. COOPER12

    COOPER12 Well-Known Member

    275.00 US is cheap now days for a Uncirculated 83 CC.
     
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  10. expat

    expat Remember you are unique, just like everyone else Supporter

    Well, I have her. I imaged her in natural daylight but am having a bit of trouble capturing the incredible, typical CC luster. Also is an image of date position with bar under second 8. and die chatter between date and denticles which looks to confirm VAM5.
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    Last edited: Apr 9, 2022
  11. expat

    expat Remember you are unique, just like everyone else Supporter

    Forgot the date image
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  12. Evan8

    Evan8 A Little Off Center

    What are the lines above the eagle's head and below the wings?
     
  13. expat

    expat Remember you are unique, just like everyone else Supporter

    They are die polish lines
     
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  14. Evan8

    Evan8 A Little Off Center

    I figured as much. Did they help to distinguish the VAM? I havent looked at VAM world for your coin so I am just curious.
     
  15. charley

    charley Well-Known Member


    Figured it out. Good on you.

    Any opinions about the Obverse Die?
     
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  16. expat

    expat Remember you are unique, just like everyone else Supporter

    According to my fellow members at VamWorld, the three things needed to confirm VAM 5 are as I posted above. Date position, bar under 2nd 8 and die chatter above denticles below date.
     
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  17. expat

    expat Remember you are unique, just like everyone else Supporter

    Other than an early die stage because of the lack of any letter clashes, no
     
  18. imrich

    imrich Supporter! Supporter

    I'm residing in the U.S..

    If I were offered the coin here, I'd purchase!

    JMHO
     
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  19. expat

    expat Remember you are unique, just like everyone else Supporter

    I bought it this morning. Guy drove 2 hours to bring it personally to our office so I could see it in hand
     
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  20. COOPER12

    COOPER12 Well-Known Member

    I would to , that was a good deal.
     
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  21. Tamaracian

    Tamaracian 12+ Yr Member--Supporter

    @expat I'm happy that you did the deal on that coin; with the new photos I can definitely confirm the VAM 5.
     
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