Pretend you are a TPGS grader...

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Insider, Apr 7, 2022.

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How does the scratch thru the head affect the grade?

Poll closed Apr 9, 2022.
  1. I would detail the coin no matter how perfect the rest of the coin was!

    13 vote(s)
    31.7%
  2. I would drop the grade considerably, no higher than 62 but straight grade it.

    4 vote(s)
    9.8%
  3. That scratch is not important to me.

    24 vote(s)
    58.5%
  1. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    I followed the Voting Rules! I followed the Voting Rules! I followed the Voting Rules!
     
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  3. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

     
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  4. Evan8

    Evan8 A Little Off Center

    I followed the rules.

    However, I find it hard to pretend to be a TPG coin grader, as I work more than four hours a day:D
     
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  5. ifthevamzarockin

    ifthevamzarockin Well-Known Member

    "ONLY to be ruined in a matter of minutes (Actually, usually an expected outcome :( due to several possible reasons I cannot print.) is typical around here SO I CAN ONLY BE disappointed and not surprised."

    If you expected the outcome why would you be disappointed?
    If you expected the outcome why didn't you present it a different way to avoid disappointment?

    "My teaching methods are much different than most and I believe they produce much better results!"

    Apparently you are disappointed with the results.

    The only thing you did was pin a target on your back and run out on the firing range.
     
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  6. CoinCorgi

    CoinCorgi Tell your dog I said hi!

    This an excellent opportunity y'all. Don't mess it up. ;)
     
  7. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    You could have saved a ton of time by simply posting the picture as an example of a crack and stating that scratches arent raised. You may think your methods work better (and they may for you) but the most effective way to teach people especially large groups is by being straight forward in the most simple way. If someone new opened this thread they would be confused out of their mind with all the "learning tricks"

    As far as learning to follow explicit instructions, you arent our boss paying our salary nor is this kindergarten or the military so hard no on that one. Maybe more people would play along if you did things in a more straight forward concise manner instead of making a poll about scratches then posting a picture of a die crack
     
  8. ifthevamzarockin

    ifthevamzarockin Well-Known Member


    +1
     
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  9. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Morgandude11, posted: [:oops::sorry: He is not yelling. I just want all to see his very :rolleyes:important comments] "This is pure arrogance. [:jawdrop:] A learning experience is when people give rationale behind their grading opinions. :facepalm::wacky::confused: [:(:hurting: I saw no grading opinion here except to set the appearance of the coin in the OP] Just posting a number, [Again o_O:facepalm::wacky::confused: what are you writing about? :banghead::banghead: Should you :blackeye: be posting in another thread?] and then insulting members who offer supporting details to explain the reason for their opinion is teaching. [Then take over my thread and start teaching rather than :yack::yack::yack: about your incorrect :vomit:assumptions] Being acrimonious, because we won’t play elementary school is presumptuous. [Actually, class clowns and bullies who couldn't follow instructions were expelled in private school :smuggrin:]."

    Morgandude11, posted: Apparently not. If he pulled that garbage at work, he would be long gone from his job. :yack::yack::yack::yack: :wacky::stop: [News Flash to you and your ilk. I have been pulling this "nonsense" for almost fifty years AT WORK **and in classes and only one :bigtears::bigtears::bigtears: out of hundreds of students did not turn in Very Good to EXCEPTIONAL evaluations for my teaching performance :D] This is a coin board where we SHARE. [Then you take over and lead the discussion about this coin YOUR WAY!] I have been called out for being dictatorial before by members [Sounds like a personal problem between you and other members], and they were correct to do so. [Only in your mind] This is a group of collectors, not a course on “grading made easy.” [CT is many things to many members. Now, this nonsense has forced me to give myself a time out from posting ANYTING more in this thread because of your hurt feelings, ridiculous ass umptions, and :bigtears::bigtears:comments.]

    I have had to apologize for being a pompous azz before, for acting like a “know-it-all.” [Never cut yourself short due to hurting the feelings of less informed collectors. Snowflakes exist everywhere and many times they ruin things for the rest of us.]The people sho did it were right, as my, or anyone else’s posts are not sacred." [Right or wrong IS NOT important, were your opinions correct?] ;)

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    ** I often play a game like this in the grading room to keep everyone on their toes. It goes like this: As first grader on a box, I'll call a very deceptive counterfeit GENUINE :jawdrop: and see who catches the deception. Only the finalizer can see my note telling him the coin is a fake. I find this a great way to teach the new guys coin authentication. It works in Seminars also. Long time members here know my tricks on CT. I'll post two fakes and ask members to vote which one is genuine. Some :bigtears::bigtears::bigtears: don't like that method. It's TOO BAD! The learning comes later with the DETAILED discussion of the image. Unfortunately, that will be missing here until other members do it.
     
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  10. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

     
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  11. Skyman

    Skyman Well-Known Member

    I followed the rules.

    Having said that, I'm only posting on this thread because I'm pretending I'm a TPGS grader... That means the chicks will come flocking to my side, right? ;)
     
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  12. Dave Waterstraat

    Dave Waterstraat Well-Known Member

    If just being a coin collector wasn't enough of a chick magnet...:D
     
  13. CoinCorgi

    CoinCorgi Tell your dog I said hi!

    I pretend I grade for the Ed Wood School of Grading.
     
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  14. AdamL

    AdamL Well-Known Member

    I wasn't going to say anything. But the thread is already flooded with comments.
    All I'll add is that I was thrown for a loop from the get go thinking, "Scratch? IS that a scratch? And if not, how am I supposed to vote in this pole?"
     
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  15. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    I knew it was a die crack, I thought it was where I circled myself. :confused:

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  16. Dynoking

    Dynoking Well-Known Member

    I do grade for ED Wood.
     
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  17. Dynoking

    Dynoking Well-Known Member

    Do you show them only a portion of the coin too?
     
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  18. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Every teacher has their own way of teaching. Some teachers can't see methods that fail and keep using them.
     
  19. wxcoin

    wxcoin Getting no respect since I was a baby

    Now that the rules were broken you should have added a fourth option like in your other recent post:)
     
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  20. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Ok, that will be $150 for a professional hour. Next time, take your shoes off, before lying down on the couch. :) :)
     
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  21. Jim Dale

    Jim Dale Well-Known Member

    I wish I had taken a course in coin grading before I started my collection. The second gold coin that I bought was a 1904 Liberty Head One Ounce Double Gold Eagle Coin. It came back "UNC DETAILS, OBV Scratched. I paid $1,275 for it November 5, 2009. I thought it was gorgeous. The dealer told me he would reimburse me for the cost of the coin and the cost to grade it. Should I have taken it? I still have it. I don't sell coins.
     
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