I realize some counterfeits are "too stupid for words" per the below referenced example but are any ever really in demand? Has there ever been any counterfeit coins that were actually desired by collectors in the case of Morgan silver dollars? I can only think of the Henning nickel, when thinking of collectible. Is the Henning nickel collectible mainly because the counterfeiter was an American? Anyone? Some coin forgeries are actually too stupid for words and this happens to be the case with the counterfeit coin we show here below. http://www.silver-coins.org/american_eagle_dollar.html
Yep the micro o '96, '00, '02 counterfeits are highly collectible. Here's a article on them: The so-called 'Micro O' variety New Orleans Mint Morgan silver dollars dated 1896, 1900 and 1902 are actually deceptive, contemporary counterfeits Even in the lower grades they can bring good money.
If the counterfeits actually circulated successfully as money, they can be collectible. This is the case with the aforementioned Micro O dollars; in addition, you see that sometimes with colonials (Bungtown Mint New Jersey coppers, for example), and obsolete bank notes.
I have a Collection of Fakes.. The Trade Dollars are easy to spot at fake.. I have some Morgans that are scary.. Had to check the Weight to confirm.. They do have a Value.. I value the fact that I have these and they are NOT being passed around.. I hate the Idea of people being ripped off.. I wish I had all of them,.. ALL of them.. every counterfeit.. Then I would/Might destroy them all.. I find value in some of them more then others.. The ones from the 1920's have a historical value.. The more modern have value as samples / teaching tools and personal reminders to LOOK CLOSE and be skeptical.. I will show some soon.. I would love to see who can pick out the fakes.. some of these are Good,.. the Chinese have become masters of crap! I guess I should add that I have NEVER paid more then 2.00 for a fake.. so maybe that would be the value
Just as some people become specialized in certain aspects of a hobby, there are now many error collectors, couterfeit collectors, copy collectors, etc. As already noted by lather. Oddly enough at some coin shows I've seen counterfeits selling for more than the real coins. Usually in MS grades though and many are made with pure Silver. Many of the Morgan Dollars in MS grades that are made really well counterfeits don't sell as high as some of the required fillers of other denominations. A really high priced counterfeit is the 16D Mercury Dime, 1894S Liberty Head Dime and naturally the 09S VDB Cent. Some dealers are now making counterfeits, fakes, copies and even coasters more of thier inventory than normal coins. Becoming a big market.
what's a beginner to do ? After reading the captions & viewing all 24 photos in this article I am scared to buy anything online ! http://coins.about.com/od/worldcoins/ig/Chinese-Counterfeiting-Ring/Chinese-Fake-Coin-Minting.htm
I know some dealers that collect deceptive counterfeits, altered dates, and the like, if for no other reason than to get them out of circulation, so to speak. Of course, if you wanted to collect the "too stupid for words" counterfeits, you would quickly run out of room.
Some of this guys fakes are good.. he has been selling them for a few weeks.. most will sell for under 2.00.. THEY ARE NOT STAMPED replica or copy.. shipping free from China.. I got several CC .. he is doing NOTHING but getting his feedback up then he will sell them as real .. make a bankload of cash and split.. Some of the Morgans can fool a pro.. all beware in a few weeks when that feedback is up... http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZhepeishopQQhtZ-1
I myself collect ancient counterfeits. Some of these barely resemble the original types. http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=1602
The 1923-D & 1930-D Mercury Dimes known as the "Soviet Dimes" are very collectible and I would love to have one.
I have a small collection of chinese 1850's eagles/doubles/quarters/etc that I use for educational purposes about the California Gold Rush. They are incredibly real looking (although weight is wrong) and cost $1.60 each. Although the photo on eBay shows the "replica" stamp, the actual coins do not. How else could I own an 1854S Quarter Eagle?
Ya that was rough.. Been thinking about those pictures all day.. Man those are thousands and thousands of fakes to hit the market.. I almost feel guilty buying any.. I don't think I will be getting any more.. I don't want these dirtbag *&^%'s to get anymore of my money.. even at 1.00 a coin.. way to much and in a small way it does support what they do.. I like knowing that the ones I have are not on the market anymore.. and NEVER will be again.. I will destroy mine before I ever let them loose.. I have some from the 1920's to Modern.. they have been making these forever.. dear god how many are floating around... AAARRRGGGEE!!! Been a bit upset all day about those dang pictures... THESE ARE ALL FAKES! Selling on Ebay and UNMARKED replica/copy http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZhepeishopQQhtZ-1 Cheap now for feedback only... Fast Burn later and then gone..
This guy's stuff must have been taken down really fast. Maybe it was that young lady who stops by from ebay, I don't know. In all honesty, I wouldn't mind buying a few of these fakes but there's a couple of reasons why I don't. The major reason is that I don't want to support the illegal activity or promote it in any way. Another reason is because I don't want to chance any of my info getting to those crooked Chinitons, pronounced Chee-knee-tons. Who knows what they could put together with a name and address? If I see some that I like on the streets already like at a coin show, I may pick something up. Hopefully it's vintage. :kewl:
There are several varieties of Vermont and Connecticut coppers that were actually contemporary counterfeits. Counterfeit British halfpence widely circulated both in the US and in Britain, they are actively collected today (and getting a little costly). In the Conder token series the contemporary counterfeits are cataloged in the standard reference and are collected right along with the genuine pieces.
That's really something, especially about the Conder tokens. Do you have any links where I could read and see some pics? :thumb:
