Another CC GTG. 1882cc

The last CC GTG was a very successful discussion. Let’s try again, with one of my favorite coins. Please feel free to comment. These are better photos, that do reflect the coin’s appearance.

 

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I know it’s not exactly “coin” talk, but I just love her. Most beautiful and detailed. Very nice.

 

I want to give it 66DMPL but that cheek just screams nothing higher than 65.

65DMPL

 

64 DMPL. Awesome mirrors.

 

DMPL but I can't decide between 65 or 66

 

I'm not sure how TPG look at the shelf wear, but still a nice coin. I'm guessing 65 DMPL. Could be higher.

Why do you say that. Just curious.

 

I love the intense cameo look on a coin that is 140 years old. This one has incredible contrast. Has the mirrors and contrast of a modern, with the vintage of a cc dollar.

 

It is cameo and I'd love to say 66 DMPL but that face drive's me to MS65 Still a beauty!

 

Very nice Morgan!! I agree with you, there is nothing nicer than a cameo Morgan. I want to call it a DMPL, but the light frosty appearance of the fields on the obverse and around UNITED and AMERICA on the reverse make me say PL. If the fields were as deep and black as they were around the eagle, I'd call it DMPL. I hope I'm wrong, but I will go MS-65 PL.

Edited to add, it could be a simply lighting issue that is making me go PL.

 

Proof Like Morgan's tend to show every minor break in the frost as a hit in photos. I suspect this coin is gorgeous in hand and is every bit an MS66.

As for the frost, I think it just barely lacks the contrast to be DMPL. Knowing @Morgandude11's tendency to find gem Morgan's, it very well could be a DMPL...but based on the photos I don't think the contrast is there and would call it a very nice PL.

So, I'm going to say MS66PL.

 

MS65PL

 

MS 65 DMPL ...mirrors look deep, fields are clean, and what might be thought of as hits on the cheek, I'm guessing is mostly breaks in the frost

 

Ms64dmpl

 

MS64. Could be PL or DMPL but really not something that can determined from these static images. Could be 65 depending on how severe the facial marks really are. Frosty devices can really make things appear worse than they really are.

 

Cheek “marks” are frost breaks. The devices are extremely frosty, adding to the contrast from the die polished fields. It has a strong cameo appearance in hand.

 

ms65 DMPL

 

MS-64 DMPL Vam 3D

It's a little hard to tell with the photo contrast & focus between PL & DMPL

 

Yup. Therein will be the dilemma.

 

"Yup. Therein will be the dilemma."

Not trying to get put on ignore..... just trying to help. LOL
What could we do to eliminate the dilemma from the equation?

You take good photos but seem to have a slight lighting problem and a little crisper focus.

What kind of lights are you using and have you tried different kinds or a mix?

Do you use any kind of stand to hold or stabilize the camera/phone?

 

Valid questions. I just recently got a new Nikon, after selling all of my old DSLR equipment. I have a mirror less, full-frame Z5, and use the long zoom lens. As regarding light, I’m experimenting with different lighting conditions—natural light versus incandescent lighting. I am not satisfied with the results so far—coins seem to photograph either excessively detailed, exaggerating every nick, or looking overly flooded out, and are overly flat-textured. I must experiment more.