...i might be a might prejudice on comparing my own coins with the plate coins from my books authored by Sir G.F. Hill(1925-6) so i'll put it to a vote and let you, my Peeps, decide.. are these two coins of product of the famous forger, Carl Becker?...step right up and cast your vote..(since in our hobby, a lot of the time it comes down to opinions^^) and as always.... POST YER COINS N COMMENTS PEEPS!
I don't think that the coins are Becker forgeries... Becker operated from 1806 to 1830, while I think that these are both much more modern forgeries. Both look very similar in style to the fakes of Slavey Petrov and other Bulgarian studios, although I think that Slavey produced his coins in sterling silver and these are some other type of white metal. You can see some of Slavey's designs here: http://www.beastcoins.com/Fakes-Altered/Fakes.htm. There don't seem to be any similar fakes on the Forum Fakes website: https://www.forumancientcoins.com/fakes/search.php . There are no flow marks on any of the legends and the fields are almost too perfect, which indicates that these coins were likely pressed rather than struck (also indicating a more modern origin).
I think they are Becker’s restrike. Following Becker’s death in 1830, his dies were transferred to the Berlin Museum, which used them to strike off-metal copies that were made available to museums, dealers, and collectors.
its possible... ..i'm inclined to agree with you Sir! ..that's also possible...now you've gone and gonna make me read the rest of the books thank you for your comments gentlemen ..when i got Hills books on Becker i didn't know the plates of the coins would be in them..
Of course they are genuine fakes . Becker made or made by someone else using Becker dies . Pictured below is my prize Becker fake . For comparison a genuine coin .
The family used his dies to strike sets of coins in a poor quality pewter alloy, with the examples sold to collectors and institutions. At some point Becker's family sold the dies to the Saalfeld Museum, and they finally were placed into of the collection of the Kaiser-Friedrich Museum in Berlin in 1911.Nov 16, 2014
with the evidence so far introduced, we can conclude that these are in fact reproductions made by Karl Beckers dies sometime before 1911(in fact, one may even be a plate coin of Hills). now i guess it'd be according to what type of metal was used to determine about when they were struck, along with the knowledge that since there was no apparent applied 'wear' to make the coins look weathered by time, they were not intended to deceive by fraud, 'in my opinion'...
