1911 Lincoln Cent, missing last "T" in Trust

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by dhegler, Mar 25, 2008.

  1. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    No need for the cap lock.

    If you read the link @Kentucky provided, you'll see it's from PCGS. They give a good explanation of how the D was removed from the die. You'll also see the similar explanations in the Lincoln Cent reference books by Dr. Sol Taylor, David Lange, and the mega Redbook on cents edited by Q David Bowers. Currently @CaptHenway has been researching the 1922-D (not sure if it will be an article or book), and he hasn't indicated any significant changes to the body of knowledge that the D and weak first 2 were due to a filled die and not die polish.

    Remember, the term die polish can mean anything from a light touch up to aggressive metal removal, which was the case with the 22D and 3 legged Buffalo nickel.

    Even though you disagree, and feel the need to yell at people who are trying to help you learn, there has been quite a bit of research over the years, done and/or compiled by some of the best numismatic scholars that say you're wrong. You could always write an article with your data, pics, and characteristics that indicates it's a filled die, but until then all I see is your opinion. And if we're going on opinions, I'll trust the credibility of the numismatic researchers, not some guy with no data and no history of research posting on a chat board
     
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  3. PassthePuck

    PassthePuck Well-Known Member

    Question, aren't all dies kind of a reverse image? In other words, if you look at the die, it looks like someone carved into the metal...yes? When the two dies hit the planchet, the metal flows into the grooves within the die to form the image? If this is true, how can it be heavy polishing? If it was heavy polishing, wouldn't you see a mound where the "T" should be...like a cud?
     
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  4. Hookman

    Hookman Well-Known Member

    Calm Down Kemo Sabe !

    You can disagree without being so adamant and vociferous!
     
  5. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    I my goodness. I just found a 1911 cent that was missing
     
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  6. Kevin Mader

    Kevin Mader Fellow Coin Enthusiast Supporter

    Because of an odd phenomenon, the mint mark is missing giving us the illusion of 1922 Philly production. Where as a missing device can be reasonably expected for any year’s production. Interest is what drives desirability.
     
  7. CaptHenway

    CaptHenway Survivor

    I am writing a monograph on the cents of 1922. There is one die on which the D was completely off the die. There are at least four others (one is a new discovery) on which the D either wore down or was polished down to just a few percent of its original volume. Some of these four dies then became clogged with grease and produced "No D" coins.
     
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  8. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    The second 1. 19 1. No vdb
     
  9. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Tell me more. Why is full 1922D so hard to find. Is that the year when they only minted the cent. And why?
     
  10. CaptHenway

    CaptHenway Survivor

    Not counting commemorative coins, the U.S. Mints struck only cents, silver dollars and double eagles in 1922. The very logical reason why this happened will be covered in my monograph.
     
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