1909 VDB grade input

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Mark Metzger, Mar 8, 2022.

  1. Mark Metzger

    Mark Metzger Well-Known Member

    These two just came to me as part of a large collection. I’d love to know I put on grade. I did my best on photos. Thanks!
    Coin #1
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    coin #2 7A381EAB-7085-4075-9F82-3CF71B4543D5.jpeg 8F42B12D-60ED-4A83-88BF-5F88E7240E84.jpeg 8A3B1DBA-41AB-4F6E-9B25-C938213A143B.jpeg
     
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  3. toned_morgan

    toned_morgan Toning Lover

    Wow the rim on that one is sharp! It's tough to say with the lighting, it's too direct. Try getting it so the luster is visible in some areas but dark in other areas (point the coin at an angle so the light isn't reflected directly). Based on details and a decent idea of the luster though, it is for sure MS, and I would say at least MS64. A general guess would be MS65, a very lucky guess would be MS66. Nice coin!
     
  4. Mark Metzger

    Mark Metzger Well-Known Member

    Here are some more images of Coin #2 , clearly the better of the two. It has plenty of luster left, for sure. Color picks up differently with the white background…I’d say this is a more accurate representation than the first set of images.
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  5. Millard

    Millard Coindog Supporter

    Your coin in the second photo looks better than the Photograde photo at MS-67. I've never seen Lincolns brow, beard definition, or the mole on Lincolns cheek stand out so clearly. Nice coins.
     
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  6. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

    I think I have a shaved S around here somewhere. Let me look.

    Both are really nice coins. I hate even guessing the grade from photos, so won't.
     
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  7. robec

    robec Junior Member

    Haha, wouldn’t work. The reverse is the wrong one for the SVDB.
     
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  8. toned_morgan

    toned_morgan Toning Lover

    At the direct angle with the light, you can see the areas of wear on the obverse (where there's no more luster, usually the highest points) and it really doesn't cover too much of the bust, however there are quite a few nicks, especially in his jacket, and there's also a bit of stuff on the left edge under LIBERTY. All this adds up detrimentally, so the obverse I would say is around high MS65. The reverse has a lot less wear and is much cleaner, as is expected, so that would be a nice MS67 on a good day. So overall, this is around an MS66 coin. Not bad!
     
  9. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    It looks like a matte proof
     
  10. ifthevamzarockin

    ifthevamzarockin Well-Known Member

    @eddiespin "It looks like a matte proof"

    Not a proof, it has the wrong reverse for a proof.
     
  11. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    Hmmm, for sure?
     
  12. halfcent1793

    halfcent1793 Well-Known Member

    The second one does have wear on the face, beard, etc. AU 58. The first one look like some level of UNC. Without seeing the actual coin, I couldn't be more specific.
     
  13. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

  14. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Bet I’m wrong hopefully
     
  15. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    The reverse of number 2 is second to none. I like them both because I'm selfish. Thanks for sharing your beauties.
     
  16. Mark Metzger

    Mark Metzger Well-Known Member

    I’m headed to a local coin show tomorrow that will have an ANACS rep there taking submissions. I may send #2 off with them and see what happens…
     
  17. Mark Metzger

    Mark Metzger Well-Known Member

    Final photos before sending her off to ANACS for grading. If it come back high, I’ll consider crossover to pcgs. More curious than anything.
    As I mentioned in the original post, it was part of a HUGE collection I purchased so I basically have nothing into it right now…maybe $5 tops.

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  18. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    63/64 at best IMO.
     
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