1909S-VDB counterfiet ebay listing!

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Bones-65, Mar 4, 2022.

  1. Bones-65

    Bones-65 Well-Known Member

    This will be the a first for me on this forum, so lets see how this goes.
    Lots of nicks, dings, & gouges, so the mint mark is whack up to bad to tell much about its real font?
    The reverse is just as messed up, but the designer's initials is wrong.
    The period following the "D" is to close to the "D", the periods are to close to the rim!
    If the "N" in UNITED wasn't smashed I'm pretty sure it the deep valley "N" and not the Shallow valley, if so then that would be the wrong font.
    Its doesn't look worn, but look at the details in Lincoln's hair and around his ear?
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/284680490216?hash=item4248478ce8:g:wCoAAOSwh-5iIWcW

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  3. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    Booo!!! Very frightening to say the least. Passsss!
     
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  4. Kevin Mader

    Kevin Mader Fellow Coin Enthusiast Supporter

    Yes, this is an obvious one.
     
  5. LakeEffect

    LakeEffect Average Circulated

    Lots of stuff going on there, none of it good. Looks like it did not sell.
     
  6. Bones-65

    Bones-65 Well-Known Member

    When I saw this one I thought about all the damage, the nicks, & dings and I noticed that it didn't seem to have any real amount of wear!
    So, I'm still thinking it possible that this was an abusive act to try and hide the poor strike/cast mess of the details.
    Who else thinks the damage could be a deliberate act to 'disguise' counterfeit markings and poor details?
     
  7. LakeEffect

    LakeEffect Average Circulated

    Yes, same thought occurred to me.
     
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  8. Heavymetal

    Heavymetal Supporter! Supporter

    Used motor oil works well
     
  9. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

    The periods of the initials sure don't match. Looks like it was put in a rock tumbler with ? to make it look circulated. LOL

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  10. Dynoking

    Dynoking Well-Known Member

    I'm in agreement with you about disguising the details. I also wonder if the damage is intended to stop some one from submitting for grading which would expose the counterfeit.
     
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  11. robec

    robec Junior Member

    Besides other obvious problems that is the wrong reverse for the S-VDB
     
  12. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    I'm not super-confident about the 1914-D cents and 1921-S nickels (two of each) that the seller already sold. But given the other stuff they've listed, I'm guessing that they're oblivious.
     
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