Don't look for a reference

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Pickin and Grinin, Feb 21, 2022.

  1. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Cause there isn't one.
    I found this one in my stack of pocket change this evening.
    These zincs are the hardest coins IMO to identify an RPM.
    I checked Variety Vista can't find a match but there is definitely a clockwise rotation to this one.
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    I can't capture the fine separation lines on the bottom of the mark.
     
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  3. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Could it be a die deterioration issue? The date has that strange appearance like the MM does. That's Just what I am seeing.
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  4. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Well that photo right there is showing the slight contact/loss of luster on the high points.
    What the MM has is a slight seperation line at the bottom and the extra fattening that is seen on the majority of the so called 89d RPM's.

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  5. Kevin Mader

    Kevin Mader Fellow Coin Enthusiast Supporter

    The Zincolns can be troublesome, especially as time passes.
     
  6. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

  7. Kevin Mader

    Kevin Mader Fellow Coin Enthusiast Supporter

    Can you make out a split in the upper serif? I can't tell from your photo.
     
  8. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    It's not the same die stage. There is a slight heavy roll there but no split.
     
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  9. Kevin Mader

    Kevin Mader Fellow Coin Enthusiast Supporter

    I sympathize. It's getting harder to find the RPMs amongst the Zincolns. Time and deterioration are hiding details and markers.
     
  10. Bones-65

    Bones-65 Well-Known Member

    Were looking for or at what's supposed to be an RPM (Re-punched Mint Mark) if so I'm not seeing?
    I'll post my 55-D RPM later this evening, or what I've been told is an RPM?
     
  11. Bones-65

    Bones-65 Well-Known Member

    Well, I'm back from my 65th birthday dinner, that was a treat from my big brother.
    back to topic!
    Okay, I don't see much value in the normal what is called "RPM's" although I felt in the case of this 55-D being in so good of condition and being an RPM I included it into my collection.
    Not being an expert, but as I understand it this is a true RPM=Re-punched Mint Mark.
    The picture of the coin was taken with a handheld digital camera, the close up was taken with a pretty cheap digital computer microscope, it helps with details, but its builtin LED lighting is way to harsh. In any case it is the same coin.

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  12. Kevin Mader

    Kevin Mader Fellow Coin Enthusiast Supporter

  13. Bones-65

    Bones-65 Well-Known Member

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  14. Kevin Mader

    Kevin Mader Fellow Coin Enthusiast Supporter

    That's a fun one and certainly one of the more obvious (@Bones-65). Worth a couple of bucks in that condition too. Many RPMs in the 50s and 60s are worth a couple of quarters...to the right buyer. Put it into a flip and write down the attribution. It's a nice part of your variety collection.
     
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  15. Bones-65

    Bones-65 Well-Known Member

    @Kevin Mader
    The few coins that I've posted images of is straight out of my completed date range of Lincoln Cents from 1909-2021 (2022's ordered).
    Once I finely got the 09SVDB then I started working my way backwards on acquiring the proofs in hopes of making it back to 1936, I'm holding at 1940 right now.
    I've also been pretty active in the past couple of years of doing upgrades to the collection, I'd currently say there isn't any in my collection below a Fine, and I have a forum member who is actively looking thru their thousands of Lincolns that's going to raise the bottom line of my collection up a good bit.
    I first started on this collection in the early 80's and at one time to fill the holes I put a LOT of metal detecting fines in it LoL! (yea I metal detect too, sense 1981 my first detector was a Whites 5000D-series 2).
    Well the collection was alright but it was something I could put away for a couple of years at a time and not think about it.
    Then finely one day I notice that the collection had grown a LOT and ebay came on the scene. So, then I started upgrading the MD fines, each move inspired the nest move or upgrade. Now I'm at a point that my Lincoln collection has a good bit of value, and that's just more fuel to keep going with it.
    I mean at current market value just my SVDB and my 55 DDO is worth (retail) of $3,000 not to mention my 14-D 31-S, and all the other proofs.
    For some reason the 20 coin 2009 album page is one of my favorite pages in either of my two albums.

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  16. Kevin Mader

    Kevin Mader Fellow Coin Enthusiast Supporter

    Looks like a fine collection, and being your birthday, maybe you'll treat yourself to an upgrade at some spot in your collection. I have a circulation set of Lincolns and another set where I did things along the lines you have by incrementally improving a grade on a coin when and where an opportunity presents itself. I haven't touched my Lincoln sets in a long time since completing the series, but it's never complete, so to speak.
     
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  17. Bones-65

    Bones-65 Well-Known Member

    I'm eyeing a slabbed 1939 Proof, low grade of PF-62, but its an auction and it don't end until this coming Sunday, so now I wait..........
     
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  18. Kevin Mader

    Kevin Mader Fellow Coin Enthusiast Supporter

    Most of my proofs are impaired proofs. I don’t collect them per se but I enjoy them.
     
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  19. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    A million to one just another anomaly, sorry. They are out there keep searching, good luck.
     
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  20. Bones-65

    Bones-65 Well-Known Member

    Before the gear change to including slabbed coins in my collection, I was going for 100% RAW coins, so like the SVDB other's were cracked out of the slabs to take their place in the album. Then I learned about the Endcap album pages so with Lincoln's like the West point set I didn't want to un-slab them. The big one was the slabbed 55DDO, I chewed around for a good while cutting it out of the slab, but I did so long enough that the endcap album pages came along so that saved that one from a C-section RCBS slab removal LoL!
    Those endcap pages will also save the 1936-39 graded proofs, if I can ever swing getting them.

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  21. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    How can that be a repunched mint mark if it came on the working die with the rest of the design? If it's anything, wouldn't it be evidence of die doubling? The mint marks weren't punched in separately on these 1989 branch mint cents. I see what they're calling it on that website, but I think they're full of it calling it that.
     
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