New Quiz: Can you follow instructions, EXACTLY?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Insider, Feb 4, 2022.

  1. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    A sightless person should have a well developed sense of touch, and the ability to read Braille. I think if they ran a finger over the surface they would note a smooth area free of palpable defects compared to the edges of the field. This might be interpreted as smoothing of the area.
     
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  3. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    I'm not trying to be funny but I've read 3 pages on this thread and so far I haven't learned a single thing o_O
     
  4. Dynoking

    Dynoking Well-Known Member

    But if you put the pig in a tutu and teach it to dance people will pay money to see it.
     
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  5. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    My answer to a coin like this is that it's been messed with. I believe that at one time, some parts of the field were much darker. Some spots were probably removed.
     
  6. charley

    charley Well-Known Member


    That is the longest damn 24 hours and 22 minutes hour I have ever waited.
     
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  7. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    That was good. But, you did learn that blind persons can't see things, didn't you?
     
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  8. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    Careful @charley . . . It’s important not to ignore their “feelings”.
     
  9. charley

    charley Well-Known Member


    You are right. Wise advice.

    I was just a little miffed, and insensitive, because my feelings about time were hurt, having to wait 24 hours + for an answer promised in one hour.

    I will try to be more patient and wait, and just rely on Thoughts and Prayers....
     
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  10. Hommer

    Hommer Curator of Semi Precious Coinage

    I read the whole thread yesterday as well hoping someone could outthink me on how to explain color changes to a blind person. There were a couple of thoughts/theories that came to mind, one being temperature where light would be warm and dark being cold, the other theory would be texture as in hard and soft. I concluded the best explanation would be a combination of both as the edges between the mottled dark and light colors are not crisp/hard but instead soft and mixed. The same as one would expect with a chemical treatment dropped onto the surface and wiped around having more concentrated areas of the chemical.

    I suppose polishing could also produce the same effect as the tone of the surface is worn through in a more heavily polished area.
     
  11. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    charley, posted: "That is the longest damn 24 hours and 22 minutes hour I have ever waited."

    That should teach you not to believe everything you read. My sincere apologies.
    I became completely absorbed in researching a AG-3.8 :D:facepalm: double struck colonial to see if it was Machin's or British that I completely forgot about CT.


    paddyman98, posted: "I'm not trying to be funny but I've read 3 pages on this thread and so far I haven't learned a single thing." o_O

    :jawdrop::rolleyes: That's possibly because you :bookworm::cigar: are considered the "resident ex-pert" in this
    tiny part :yawn: of the Universe. :bigtears::bigtears::(You just made me feel like I wasted a lot of my time. Wait, I shouldn't feel bad :happy: because this thread may help others who are not as "talented" as you are.


    longshot, posted: "The area has been buffed for some reason...I'm not convinced this coin is genuine....there are pimples on the leg that leave me with questions."

    "Pimples" on a small portion of a coin are not a sign of a counterfeit. That'can be the topic of another discussion.

    Hommer, posted: "I read the whole thread yesterday as well hoping someone could outthink me on how to explain color changes to a blind person..."


    You are correct. I forget some folks are born blind. I should have said a 40YO experienced dealer who just went blind so they would understand color. The entire point of this exercise is to get folks to develop a DETAILED description of what they see to a person who cannot see the coin for any reason.

    Answer: You were given two clues that may have been helpful to some members. The coin is a Trade dollar and the dark stain has some distinct form. T$ are often found with repaired "chops". They are usually easier to detect when the field is repaired rather than a masterful reengraving of the design.

    Remember that a coin's color is very important when looking for repairs, improper cleaning, counterfeits, and alterations.

     
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  12. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    Do your recall if there was some counterdamage on the rev, opposite the chop?
    Interesting case. I don't recall seeing a Trade Dollar with a repaired chopmark before; maybe the label just says "repaired" or "smoothed" so I didn't look any closer.
     
  13. manny9655

    manny9655 Well-Known Member

    Lady Liberty only has 4 fingers... The dark blotchiness in the field below the branch looks like it may be some kind of design, perhaps? I'm not sure. Or the coin may have been improperly cleaned at one time. That's what I'm going with.
     
  14. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    I don't remember. Usually there is only a very slight "flat" opposite many chops because the entire coin absorbs the punch; however, with some deep chops the coin actually rocks a little because of a bulge on the opposite side of the mark.

    Manny,

    Good observations; however, you are a little late to the quiz. Go to page 1.;)
     
  15. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Thanks for the follow-up and explanation. Now, how about this thread? ;)
     
  16. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    o_O:oops::eggface::facepalm: I forgot all about that one also. Thanks!
     
  17. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    Life is not fair... I was the only one guessing “repaired chop mark” but nobody noticed lol
     
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  18. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    That's because the instructions were to describe what you see, not speculate about causes. ;)
     
  19. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    Last time I tried to follow instructions exactly it didn’t work out too well…

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  20. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Did you describe what you saw? I'm thinking I missed it.
     
  21. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Nope, I didn't participate in this one.
     
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