GTG 1945-D Jefferson Nickel (NGC)

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Lehigh96, Feb 3, 2022.

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Guess the Assigned Grade (NGC)

  1. AU58

  2. MS60-64

  3. MS65

  4. MS66

  5. MS67

  6. Other (Please Explain in Comments)

  7. 5FS (Five Full Steps)

  8. 6FS (Six Full Steps)

  9. NOT FS (Not Full Steps)

  10. + Grade

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  1. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

    At first, I went with MS66, but adjusted my guess to MS65 due to staining and spots. No on the FS by the TPS grading standards.
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    Too many breaks, especially on the right side.
     
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  3. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    Yeah, I might change my mind to "No FS," too. That second step is obliterated on the right in that picture.
     
  4. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    Well, there was only one guy who thought this coin was AU58, and the NGC graders agreed with you. Per TPG rules, only uncirculated coins are eligible for full steps, so we shall never know their opinion on the steps. Take a bow, this was a very tough one to get right.

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    Personally, I grade this coin MS66 5FS. I see the areas of the hair that look like they have slight friction, but without any disturbance in the fields I still grade the coin as mint state.

    On a more general note, I have been including AU58 in all my GTG thread polls for years, and this is the first time that a Jefferson has had that grade. It had to happen eventually.
     
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  5. kSigSteve

    kSigSteve Active Member

    Barely missed this one. It’s been a crazy last 4 days at work with all the ice in Dallas.

    I would have guessed 65 5FS. Looks like a nice original crusty gem.
     
  6. Lem E

    Lem E Well-Known Member

    NGC will actually give steps to anything that they deem worthy. This was told to me by D.W. Lange himself. I thought the same thing that it had to be uncirculated. With PCGS it has to be MS but not with NGC. I actually have an AU-58 6FS coin. I think in total for all years of Jeffs at NGC there are around 35 examples. Here is the thread from NGC.
    https://boards.ngccoin.com/topic/425059-jefferson-nickel-graded-au-with-fs-designation/
     
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  7. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    I'm surprised; you don't see AU 58 slabbed Jeffersons too often.
     
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  8. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    That is cool, I always thought those were mechanical errors, learned something new today.
     
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  9. Lem E

    Lem E Well-Known Member

    I thought maybe it was a label error myself when I ran across it on ebay. I was going by the PCGS rules i suppose. I just assumed NGC was the same.
     
  10. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    The wear is readily discernible. It's not the area is "sitting down" so much as it is the concomitant luster-break in the area. Together, that's wear, not strike. It's very slight, though. I'm referencing, of course, the vertical area in the hair, i.e., this area...

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  11. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    They blew it—that is not a circulated coin. No evidence of any wear that shows on those pictures. I agreed with 66, 5FS. What is with NGC as of recent?
     
  12. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

    Maybe it was a bunch of rookies.
     
  13. dwhiz

    dwhiz Collector Supporter

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