Just following up on my earlier post...still haven't had a chance to take proper photos of my NYINC purchases yet, but I enjoyed seeing everyone else's so much that I figured I should at least take a quick group shot to share (always hard to get the lighting right when photographing 4 coins at once...didn't quite do justice to the big Septimius bronze in the photo.) Happy to see so many CT members did so well at the show!
I got one coin that I think was a bargain, as I was prepared to pay 2x the hammer price. I'm going to disappoint by not posting the coin since I believe it is bad juju to post a coin before I receive it in the mail. But I wanted to respond to your post.
It sounds like the dealer/auctioneer who listed the coin on biddr.com in 2020 is guilty of plagiarism. Not a good look, for sure.
@Romancollector it is a group 3 variety and one of the finest I've seen. It's always a marvelous early denarius when the rims are fully visible and perfectly centered on both sides. Congratulations.
As always @dougsmit is 100% correct here. And I've learned the hard way... I'm still a relative newb, and have certainly been guilty of the copy paste, save time, habit. And it can taste a lot like humble pie. At this point, if I've won a coin that lists a source I don't have I cross check on AC search to see if I've got a match. But even this doesn't guarantee proper identification, especially if you are checking coins from the same auction house (I've been putting off doing a write up, but will say a VERY reputable dealer has misidentified the same coin type again and again). I'm getting to point where if I don't have the reference I'm leaving that out of my description. These are the best opportunities to learn. Knee Jerk reaction is top is too tough and must be good as the bottom is too good to be true (Wonderful coins btw). But upon further investigation, I'm seeing bubbles on the first coin that can be a sign of casting. And something else that I won't mention. As to where the second coin the only problems are, it's a beauty that's too pretty and I want... if it's the real one that is. Of course, I'm far more wrong then right when trying to spot fakes from photos. So, though my first inclination is probably correct, I'm going with the after thought due to the two observable possible signs of skull-doug-ery I see on coin #1. If you don't want to reply to all and have the time I'd appreciate an PM on which witch is which
I would have liked to have gone, but I don't travel much and restrictions vary from place to place. Are there any coin shows still going on in the Midwest? I always had fun going through Jon Kern's tables.
By the way, I thought I should give an update and report that the hard drive enclosure I ordered worked fine (once I ordered the necessary USB 3.0 to USB 3.0 cable, rather than the USB 3.0 to SATA III cable that came with the equipment). So I was able to migrate everything, including my coin catalog and all my other documents and all my photos from the last 20 years, from the old 1 TB hard drive to the one in the new computer. (In all those years, I only filled up about 350 GB, so there's plenty of space left on the new drive. I suppose I could leave the old drive connected, for extra space, and even empty it for even more space if I ever need it.) Plus, so I didn't have to reinstall all my old programs, for some of which I doubt I still have the CD-ROMS or download links from years ago, I bought and downloaded something called Zinstall, which appears to have successfully migrated all my old programs as well. I guess all's well that ends well. It was probably well past time for buying a new desktop anyway after 10 years. Something bad was bound to happen soon, even if I hadn't accidentally turned it off and been unable to turn it on again. And the base price of $399 from Home Depot for a new Dell Inspiron was very reasonable.
I believe that the description of the coin in the CNG Auction 66 Lot 552 is in fact correct. Though I will say that the image in SNG Levante is very small. I think that the coin purchased by you is NOT the coin that was offered by CNG. The CNG specimen does have a small crescent shape below the winged male on the obverse which can be seen on the Levante specimen but not on yours. The belly of the swan is much closer to the edge than yours. However I concur with the sentiments voiced by others in this thread. Absolutely check those pedigrees. I check every pedigree that I can, and I try through various means to confirm those pedigrees I am unable to verify on my own. Staying at the hotel allowed me to do this and that is why I managed to find out more information on the two coins I purchased from the reign of Nerva. (See my thread above) Unfortunately people make mistakes. One time I was interested in a coin featured in an European Auction. The vendor cited that the coin was in one of their previous auctions. It wasn't Nor could I find it in any other auction they had held around the same time. So I had to give up. However the extra search can pay dividends. Looking for another coin I ran across this one. Phaselis Ar Tetradrachm 206-205 BC In the name and types of Alexander III of Macedon. Obv Head of beardless Herakles in lions skin headdress. Rv. Zeus seated left. Price 2853 Heipp-Tamer 247 16.77 grms 29 mm Photo by W. Hansen When I bought this coin I knew of an auction record dated January 2003 However looking through some old HJBerk lists I found the same coin offered in November 1996 Not a big deal but hey every little bit helps.