Who's going to NYINC?

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  1. cmezner

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    Thanks for sharing the amazing dekadrachm! That is really something. Have never even been near one.
    I like the Commodus too - never heard from Gerasa - always learning :)
     
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  3. DonnaML

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    Here is my first effort at photographing, with my cell phone, the two Trajans I bought from Herakles Numismatics at the show. The Dacia was not at all easy to capture with my primitive photographic skills. The patina is essentially black, more so than any other coin I've tried to photograph. The Mars denarius wasn't so easy for me either. But at least the photos give an idea of what they look like.

    Trajan Dac Cap denarius combined 1.jpg

    Trajan Mars denarius combined 2.jpg

    And here's the Sabina billon tetradrachm from Roman Alexandria, with Sabina herself seated on the reverse.

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  4. savitale

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    We should carpool next time.
     
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  5. savitale

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    Neat coins. Just curious, why were you attracted to these?
     
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  6. DonnaML

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    I'm not even sure how to answer that question except to say that they caught my eye and I liked them! As I mentioned, I've been looking for a while for a coin depicting Sabina with that hairstyle, and it's easier (and less expensive) to find one from Roman Alexandria than an Imperial example. As for the other two, I've been buying a number of Trajan and Hadrian denarii lately, and these two are well-known types, the first of which has a lot of historical interest for me.
     
  7. cmezner

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    The Sabina bust is awesome! Very nice catch, you have excellent eyes.
     
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  8. DonnaML

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    I took the three photos I posted last night under artificial lighting. I tried again today in natural light, on a windowsill, re-photographing the first three coins and also trying to photograph the rest. I don't see a great deal of difference, but perhaps this set of photos is a little better? (Opinions are welcome!)

    (See the more detailed descriptions of the coins in my comment on page 6 of this thread.)

    Trajan/Mars:

    New combined Trajan Mars.jpg

    Trajan/Dac Cap [Not all that much easier to capture even under natural light!]:

    New Trajan Dacia combined 2.jpg

    Sabina tetradrachm from Roman Alexandria, with Sabina seated on reverse:

    New combined Sabina Tet 1.jpg

    Antoninus Pius tetradrachm from Roman Alexandria with Canopus of Osiris on reverse [The green spot at the top of A. Pius's head on the obverse appears not to be soft or flaky, so I'm not too concerned that it signals bronze disease]:

    New Ant Pius canopus combined 2.jpg

    Hadrian tetradrachm from Roman Alexandria with Sol on reverse:

    New Hadrian Sol combined 1.jpg

    Geta denarius/PRINC IVVENTVTIS reverse:

    New Geta Princ Iuv combined 2.jpg

    Valentinian II siliqua (I confess that I somehow managed not to see all the scratches on the obverse until after I bought the coin and got home. I'm not going to try to return the coin, and do still like it, but I'm glad I didn't pay a whole lot for it!)

    New combined Valentinian II siliqua.jpg

    Finally, I also photographed my new Trajan/Danuvius denarius. I really like the toning on the reverse, as well as the fact that one can clearly see the swan's[?] head at the prow of the ship Danuvius grasps to the left.

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  9. Theodosius

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    Your new photographs are really good. And a nice set of coins, good job.
     
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  10. Romancollector

    Romancollector Well-Known Member

    Here are a few of my pickups from NYINC
    RR Anonymous denarius Crawford 44/5....I believe that it falls into group 3 but please correct me if I'm wrong
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    Severus Alexander Denarius - Spes rev
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    Divus Romulus follis
    Divus Romulus follis.jpg
     
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  11. Bronwen

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    I want one of these.

    I'm really enjoying working through everyone's new treasures.
     
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  12. DonnaML

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    Wow, great coins and beautiful photos. Did you take them yourself? If so, I envy your photographic talent!

    Do you mind my asking which dealers you bought them from?

    Of my seven purchased at NYINC, I bought the first two above from Herakles Numismatics (it was at Herakles where I had a chance to meet @Shea19), the third from Zuzim (where I met @Romancollector and @Terence Cheesman), the fourth and fifth from Pars Coins, and the sixth and seventh from Keith Candiotti (who does not, I believe, have an Internet store).

    I bought the eighth and last coin I posted above from Sibury Coins in the UK, not at NYINC.
     
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  13. Romancollector

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    Thank you! I photographed all of them on my iphone under my desk lamp, then I edited out the background on an app and inserted a grey background.

    I purchased the RR denarius from Aste Bolaffi, the Sev Alex from Dr. Martina Dieterle, and the Romulus from Herakles.
     
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  14. DonnaML

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    Well, great job! I've figured out how to remove the backgrounds entirely from a merged image of both sides of a coin, but I have no idea how to insert a different, uniform, one, so I don't usually bother. Which is why the background colors in my photos often differ slightly from one side to the other.

    It seems like everyone visited Herakles! I tried to visit the Martina Dieterle table, which I believe she shared with B & H Kreindler, around 5:00 or 5:30 on Friday, but she and Kreindler were just closing up when I got there, so I went home. I was disappointed that I missed them, along with missing HJB, which also closed a couple of hours early.
     
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  15. Romancollector

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    It's not super complicated....I simply airdrop my photos without a background to my computer and paste them into a blank grey powerpoint slide, and then I screenshot....Perhaps there are more efficient ways of doing this but I think my method is fairly quick.

    Here are some other NYINC pickups I that I managed to photograph.

    RR M. Thorius Balbus denarius from Aste Bolaffi
    Thoria denarius.jpg
    Philip I antoninianus from Warden numismatics
    Philip I antoninanus wreath.jpg
    Carinus antoninianus also from Warden numismatics
    Carinus antoninianus.jpg
     
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  16. El Cazador

    El Cazador Well-Known Member

    Great coins… quick question: what are those green specks on Severus Denarius, are those verdigris or bronze desease (though its a silver denarius) and if those are verdigris, what is a typical discount one should apply to the coin with verdigris?

    thank you and great coins once again, especially Romulus
     
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  17. DonnaML

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    Nice! I must say I've never even heard of Warden.

    Power Point is way beyond my capabilities! I limit myself to the photo editing tools that come with Windows 11 on my new computer (better than what I had with Windows 7 on my old computer!), plus a website that merges two images into one (https://www.imgonline.com.ua/eng/combine-two-images-into-one.php), plus another website that removes backgrounds (https://www.remove.bg/upload), on the rare occasions when I've done that. I don't see anything there that inserts a new background in place of the old one, though.
     
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  18. Terence Cheesman

    Terence Cheesman Well-Known Member

    I am still in NYC and I leave tomorrow. I got a negative test so I will be in Canada sometime tomorrow weather permitting. Overall this has to be one of my best shows ever. I actually bought the same number of coins at the show as I did for all of last year. Amazing. Getting here was a bit of a roller coaster ride. In November all looked great. Then came December and Omicron. Then the news that some of the dealers some of whom I depend on to make for a great show could not make it. All my friends were cancelling their vacays leaving me in the position of being alone. However I made it and it did happen and now I wouldn't have missed it for the world. This was a truly awesome show. One of the factors that made it really good was I got to talk with some old friends whom I had not seen for almost two years. Also as a result of meeting with @Romancollector found a really great burger place. As all my coins are now either heading to CNG or to Goldberg's to be shipped to me I have none of my coins with me however I will leave you with these two pics
    Tetradrachm of Nerva Mint of Alexandria 81007.jpg
    Cistophoric Tetradrachm of Nerva
    81202.jpg I picked these two coins from different dealers at the show. What is interesting is that both coins were in the same auction back in 2001. I cannot say that has ever happened to me before.
     
  19. Ed Snible

    Ed Snible Well-Known Member

    I walked the floor all day Thursday and Saturday. I was happy to meet @Terence Cheesman . I didn't see anyone else from here that I recognized.

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    Mallos, Cilicia, 430-390 BC. 0.80g, 8mm

    The NYINC dealer's ticket described it as "SNG Levante 128 (this coin)". I assumed this was Levante's coin. It wasn't. This coin was auctioned on biddr.com in July 2020 by a dealer who copied the entire description of CNG 66, lot 552. The dealer I bought it from trusted the auctioneer. With some auctioneers every provenance should be checked.
     
  20. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

    That is a serious misrepresentation. An old and famous pedigree can make a big difference in the price. Some collectors won't even buy coins lacking an old pedigree. I think you are due at least a partial refund.
     
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  21. dougsmit

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    I'll go farther than that and point out that any time you post something without checking it you are risking losing your reputation for someone else's error or even stupidity. Lately we have been seeing evidence of rushed to auction coins with obvious problems (tooling and fakes) that should have been caught by the big houses but were not. Time is money and money is the only reason the big houses exist. They used to care more about long term reputation but now that seems to be slipping. We all make mistakes but amateurs can be excused more easily than the 20% buyer's premium crowd. One big mistake is not allowing your catalogers to do their job properly in an effort to run second rate coins through while the market is hot. Checking provenance is not a job for minimum wages workers and not something to be left to cut and paste technology. Below are two coins shown next to their Dattari/Savio illustrations. Which one is a 'this coin' and which is a fake? I'm an amateur and made a mistake on one but I'm not selling my expertise to the highest bidder. We all need to check each other and everyone else.
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