GTF: CBH One or Both?

Guess The Fake!!

One of these Capped Bust Halves was sold to me as a fake. The other is underweight, I thought, so I emailed the reputable dealer from whom I purchased it and they did not respond.



What say ye? Please explain in comments, thanks

 

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I said both. The 1809 looks cast and the denticles look suspect on the 1832.

 

I agree with @Spark1951.

 

Both. The former looks cast and the latter looks a bit off...

 

No question, the 1809 is a fake. Looking at the T/I alignment it can only be the O-109, O-113 or O-114 but those have different digits and none of them have letters with missing serifs in the motto. It was probably polished to death in order to hide bubbles or other marks which shouldn’t be there. I’ll try to have a look at the other ugly thing you posted later today ;-)

 

I think the 1832 could be the O-106 variety, but if it’s underweight it’s most likely a cast counterfeit, too. @okbustchaser

 

The 1809 is fake,
The 1832 is questionable. Need clearer pictures

 

1809 - fake
1832 - possible fake, cleaned

 

I'm with the majority "Both cast fakes"

 

the 1809 is a definite fake. The 1832 may be just a horribly abused but genuine coin, or a better than average fake horribly abused to disguise its shortcomings. I give it an 80% probability of being genuine (I refuse to be shoehorned into a binary decision).

 

Leaning they're both bad

 

1809 left me with no doubt about yelling fake.

1832 left me scratching my head, leaning towards authentic though.

 

The 1809 is no doubt fake. The 1832 is 50/50 in my opinion.

 

No fair. You have to commit one way or the other

Wishy washy doesn't work!

 

The negative half of me says fake but the positive half of me says real.

 

The 1809 is unquestionably fake. Proportions are off on both the obverse and reverse. It was antiqued to make it look genuine. Not positive about the 1832. It is likely fake, but could be an abused, damaged coin. Not positive about the ‘32, but inclined to think both are counterfeit.

 

1809, definitely fake. 1832, I think was in a fire or something and I say real. I'm basing that on how crisp everything looks.

 

I'm guessing 1809 fake.
1832 I'm less certain on, but I think it could be real but with some issues.

 

Ohhhh touche my friend, touche!

 

Thanks for the various impressions. The '09 was indeed the one sold as a fake. So no drama there. Now how do I authenticate the other one? It cost real money. Sorta.