Did PCGS screw up grading this coin?

Anybody know of any strikethrough coins that either graded proof 70 or MS70 ?

 

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We can also include varieties ...

 

Okay you got me on that one .
But I'll be a little bit more specific let's use PCGS .

 

Since they're in the top two of grading companies

 

Honestly I don’t think it’s a strike through anymore. Someone on the PCGS forums mentioned something about the “burr”.

 

Whatever it is it's ugly and ruins the eye appeal ... if it were my coin I'd be sending it back in and get me some money back .

It's a great argument and hard to beat anyway it's makes it look ugly ...

That's my opinion of course ...

 

Well everyone likes different things.

I actually already sold this coin on the PCGS forums for a slight premium (~$25) over other MS70 D Morgans. The guy who bought it has a 1921 D with a similar error and wanted to pair them. If I had gotten a “perfect” coin I wouldn’t have been able to sell it for as much so I’m very happy with it.


Some people think Mint errors make coins unique. Because the coin looks different but it’s NOT damage. It’s how the coin was minted straight from the press.

But as I said everyone likes different things. No one should be embarrassed or feel bad for liking what they like.

 

Very true each to his own

 

Some people call it a burr but fin is a better term. A burr is extra metal left after cutting and there are cutting errors on coins but they occur during the blanking stage where the die that punches the blanks out of the sheet has became dull.

A fin or finned rim occurs when metal is pushed into the gap between the anvil die and the collar die. It is common on proof coins because of high striking pressure not usually used on coins struck for circulation. The fins are exceptionally thin and are easily broken off. I coin with the fin still attached has obviously been carefully handled and shouldn't discount the grade.

 

Thank you so much for explaining that!

I learned a lot!

I’m surprised stuff like that makes it through quality control. It makes me wonder if COVID impacted the US Mint in this way.

 

Yup it’s one of the greatest things about collecting. Everyone has a different interest and style. No 2 collections are exactly the same.

I’ll be honest though: I kept the other MS70 for my own personal set. xD

I kind of cherry-picked my set from the 70s I got (except the Peace Dollar since I only got 1x 70 ). It was kind of tough since they all looked the same but that’s how I found the error.

 

It's fairly common. I have several proof coins from the mint with the finning attached. Coins struck for circulation are dumped into huge boxes and are rubbed against each other enough that if there was a fin on them it would be broken off fairly early in the coins life. Sometimes the broken off fins are bouncing around in the mint and get struck into another coin as a strike through. I have a Bicentennial Half Dollar with a fin strike through on the reverse. The photos are terrible but its easy to see in the post here.
https://www.cointalk.com/threads/someone-chained-the-entrance-to-independence-hall.259053/

 

theres this one that I know of it was recent. it's not mine.

 

it can be a rim burr and struck through the rim burr while still attached. I just wouldn't want to fiddle with it myself to figure it out and let them review it again instead, let them do the crack out and see what's going on with it. many a folk had fiddled with a rim burr and broke it off. LOL

it could be folded over top of the L during encapsulation, or it could be struck into the surface. I don't know which, but I'd let the experts figure it out rather than fiddle with it myself.

 

I['m not an expert but I read a lot.
It's not quite right, a "fin" is when the metal pushes up past the die and the collar, it happens during the strike. this is correct.

a "burr" is when a piece of the planchet is sheared off either by the feeder fingers or during ejection after the strike happens, it happens either right before or right after the strike, not during blanking.
blanks, especially silver or gold blanks are all cleaned up and polished and weighed before striking. this happens after quality control and assaying of the product from the blank supplier.

 

Yeah thankfully I never even opened the plastic capsule before sending to PCGS or it probably would’ve broken off.

The good news is I found someone who wants it particularly for the error because at first I thought I’d have to sell it at the price of an MS69 or even 68.

 

Here's a good article from NGC, how they grade strikethrough .
https://www.ngccoin.com/news/article/5707/struck-throughs/

 

I don't know if the Denver mint coins where . Have seen quite a few scratched ones .

 

Yeah Denver seemed to be having QA issues.

Fortunately I got 2/3 70s but the ratio of 69 to 70 is much higher for the D mintmark.

It’s funny because before the coins were released the D’s sold for the least but now the MS70 D is the highest priced Morgan (I think the Peace in 70 is higher) and the CC used to be the most expensive but it has the highest number of 70s (proportional to submissions) which sell for way less.