Grade a 1928 $1 Red Seal Note for Me, Please

Discussion in 'Paper Money' started by kanga, Dec 24, 2021.

  1. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector

    Paper currency is not a strength for me.
    Need opinions and a grade on this note.

    1928_US-Note-o-40.jpg 1928_US-Note-r-40.jpg
     
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  3. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    Not my expertise either but I'll guess it's in Very Fine condition. :) Thanks for sharing!
     
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  4. SteveInTampa

    SteveInTampa Always Learning

    I’d say it looks like a Fine-15 (no Q).
     
  5. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

    Nice enough note to put in a collection. @SteveInTampa has more experience with currency than most, so I'd go with his evaluation.
    I see three folds, which brings it down, but I can't see much else with those photos.
    In-hand, do you see any stains, pin holes, other folds or creases? All will effect the grade and collector price.
     
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  6. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

    Just as a comparison, here is one of mine.
    1928 Red Seal $1, VF30, face.jpg 1928 Red Seal $1, VF30 back.jpg
     
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  7. alurid

    alurid Well-Known Member

    Very nice note. Its got a nice clean centerline
    I find the mark in the corner, and the one top dead center interesting.

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  8. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    I was at 20. But if Steve says 15, then my grade is a little high.
     
  9. Hommer

    Hommer Curator of Semi Precious Coinage

    If I had to guess I would have said 20. I have seen a lot worse in 15 but I'm no grader.
     
  10. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector

    Thanks for all of the opinions.
    I'd like to have an XF but this one will do -- at least for now.
    Prices start to get serious above VF.

    It's part of my small-size $1 note set.
     
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  11. SteveInTampa

    SteveInTampa Always Learning

    Instead of scanning the note, photograph it with side lighting so we can see the real condition.

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  12. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    Would go F-25, but it does appear to have been pressed as there are flattened out
    wrinkles thru out the note, which would affect value to collectors.
     
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  13. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector

    After looking at the note I posted and getting comments I decided to step up a bit in quality.
    So I got this one from GC:
    1928-RedSeal-OneDollarNote-o.jpg 1928-RedSeal-OneDollarNote-r.jpg

    Now I can sell my original and get some money back.

    I'll also have to look into methods of preventing the other side of notes from showing through during a scan (I scan notes rather than photograph them; it makes it simpler to do).
     
  14. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector

    "Bleed through" (mostly) corrected.
    1928-RedSeal-OneDollarNote-r-ReducedBleedThru.jpg
     
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  15. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    based on the pics would go VF-20 very wrinkled thru out.
     
  16. GoldFinger1969

    GoldFinger1969 Well-Known Member

    Agreed, FINE to VERY FINE based on the strict definitions in my currency books.

    But I'm not surprised the actual rating might not be higher, maybe as high as PMG 30.
     
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  17. GoldFinger1969

    GoldFinger1969 Well-Known Member

    Why/how does shining a light from the side show all the blemishes and folds/creases ?
     
  18. SteveInTampa

    SteveInTampa Always Learning

    It gives the note a third dimension.
     
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  19. Cherd

    Cherd Junior Member

    Our subconscious visual cortices can infer amazing things when shadows are present :cool:
     
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  20. Jaelus

    Jaelus The Hungarian Antiquarian Supporter

    Nice example. It took me a while to find a choice example for my collection at a reasonable price. I was seeing them all the time, but they were either certified gems or rags, with nothing in-between.
     
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  21. capthank

    capthank Well-Known Member

    Has the bill been ironed?
     
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