Mother mould of Han Wudis Wuzhu coins..

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  1. Loong Siew

    Loong Siew Well-Known Member

    Western Han Dynasty. Han Wudi 漢武帝。141-87BC.

    Shanglin Sanguan (上林三官) Wu Zhu 五銖 Clay mother mould。Extraordinarily large specimen with 20 fully intact wu zhu impressions. Very rare more so in this size and condition.

    This extraordinary specimen is an uncommonly large Wu Zhu mother mould used during the Han Dynasty of ancient China to create impressions for casting of coins. Unlike normal moulds, mother moulds were meant to create multiple production moulds hence the protruded and sharp details. Once used to a reasonable frequency, they are destroyed and broken off. Hence whilst smaller and crude mould pieces exists, mother moulds are very rare more so with a significant number of clear impressions still intact such as this specimen.

    The coin minted from these were the earlier Wu Zhu of the Western Han Dynasty. This is recognized by the sharp 五 strokes that made them almost triangular as opposed to the more rounded curves of the later Western and Eastern Han issues.

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  3. sand

    sand Well-Known Member

    @Loong Siew Very interesting. I knew about Chinese mother coins, but I didn't know about mother molds.
     
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  4. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

  5. Loong Siew

    Loong Siew Well-Known Member

    Mother coins are model coins used to impress on moulds to create coins when molten metal is poured in. Mother moulds are quiet similar and mostly used in ancient China to actually impress and make moulds from soft materials such as clay or sand to mass produce coins
     
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  6. Loong Siew

    Loong Siew Well-Known Member

    Thanks a lot :happy:
     
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  7. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    ..kool coin artifact LS :)
     
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  8. Loong Siew

    Loong Siew Well-Known Member

    Thanks.. i got 3 moulds in total.. will post them next time..
     
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  9. Spaniard

    Spaniard Well-Known Member

    Very nice!...How are these made?
     
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  10. Loong Siew

    Loong Siew Well-Known Member

    Thanks.. Mother moulds are usually engraved or carved by hand.. Then they are pressed on soft material like sand and clay..put to furnace and hardened
     
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  11. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    NOT a Mother Mold, but a Baby...

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    China Wu Zhu coin clay mold unearthed in SanMenXia City in HeNan Province full obverse impression partial second impression probly H-8.6 110-90 BCE
     
  12. Loong Siew

    Loong Siew Well-Known Member

    Cool.. It's a full intact impression.. Looks Western Han to me too. Definitely original! Nice piece..:happy:
     
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  13. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Thank you. I got it from the Aviation Engineer friend that you know. :)
     
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  14. Loong Siew

    Loong Siew Well-Known Member

    Don't ring a bell on who but glad you got a nice one.:cat:
     
  15. scottishmoney

    scottishmoney Buh bye

    @Loong Siew Very fascinating posts in the last few days - I have seen some of these coins in museums in China but don't own anything earlier than a couple of Tang dynasty coins. One curious, but cool, aspect of the coins is that for instance the character for "Wu" - is still the same after all this time.
     
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  16. Loong Siew

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    Yeah.. it remained largely the same up to the Sui Dynasty. Slight variations in the curve of the 五 differentiates Western vs Eastern Han..There are also other 銖 denominations as well until they were dropped entirely during the Tang
     
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  17. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    @TypeCoin971793
     
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  18. Loong Siew

    Loong Siew Well-Known Member

    Ah.. yes..I know him though not familiar with his profession..
     
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  19. happy_collector

    happy_collector Well-Known Member

    Nice coin mo
    Really extraordinary, @Loong Siew.
    Showing 6 rows of coins.
     
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  20. Loong Siew

    Loong Siew Well-Known Member

    Thanks.. This one has quiet a number of coin impressions still intact.. It is impossible to find unbroken specimens as they are officially broken off after use as a counterfeiting prevention action.
     
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