Found this in a CRH. 99% sure it's a DDR - it's not attributed, at least not on Variety Vista. If it is a DDR, it's my first Doubled die, and it is an unknown variety. Also has a nice die chip on the left of the building. @Kevin Mader Doubling is on the top right of the entrance to the Monticello building. Should I try to get it attributed?
Yes, this is a common spot for a DDR on a nickel. Also, there is nothing on the obv that would clash like that
Thanks for the feedback. And, the end of the building is a common spot for a chip. I have a bunch of them. Nice coin.
Yes, does appear to be a new variety as I'm not finding it on Brians Variety Coins either and there are already 49 currently listed. Congrats and send that baby into Brian for a Discovery status if you are so inclined.
Class IX doubling from the single squeeze hubbing process tends to occur in the center of the coin. Most of these tend to be minor. You may have something, but I don't have much interest in this type of doubling, so my opinion may be wrong. Scroll down the link for the class IX section https://www.error-ref.com/doubled-dies/
That's what I thought. The die must not have been seated properly, is that how this happens? It was disoriented when squeezed by the hub? I read Wexler's and others' explanations, I think that's how they're saying this happens. To me, single-squeeze doubling is an oxymoron, but then I'm not an expert. It's more analogous to strike doubling than die doubling, it just occurs when the die is single-squeezed, not the planchet single-struck.
It seems quality control is an issue with this happening. I can't image these things slipping through all the time like they do w/o someone catching it. Unless it's just too expensive to correct once done. Getting old is getting old.
What's the original? Isn't the original the master hub? Then the master dies, then the working hubs from the master dies, etc? I'm just asking, are you sure its origin is the master hub? That would mean every coin would have it, as there's only one master hub.
I apolgize Eddie. This is from the web. Doubled die is a term in numismatics used to refer to a duplication of design elements on a working die created due to a misalignment of the die or hub during the hubbing process. Strength of the doubling can vary from very slight and isolated to extreme and widespread. The exact cause of the doubling can also vary, which is why a class system was created to outline the known and hypothesized causes. I edited out my original post.
Yes, I can see that. Thanks, Tommy. You know, when we get a little old, our fractions around the track aren't what they used to be. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't so slow I wasn't understanding it. Can you imagine what the young ones would be saying around the stables about me, the little brats?
Fun find...I agree with our fellow enthusiasts. It is a DDR. As noted, this is a common area to find this class of doubling. I have a number that weren't attributed when I last checked, so during these cold months, I might go through what I have to assign attribution. A circulated specimen with some typical rash, but clearly the doubling is there. Many times the doubling is very faint and not as obvious. Again, a fun find!
A Quality Management guru used to say..."By what method?" In short, his view was that the results might be achieved by various methods and that in some instances, the method was important (especially where ethics were involved). From the purist's viewpoint, doubling (the result) is accomplished through a second attempted impression (the process). In the case of Class IX, the process has changed, but the result has not (at least, as I've been thinking about it). I think that through the years, doubling of features have been accomplished through various methods, so in that sense, I'm open to the method changing and not being as important. Once the single-press method changed the paradigm, the rules were changed, but perhaps not the boundaries. Thoughts?
