Two major CC rarity’s. Thoughts?

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  1. Joshua Lemons

    Joshua Lemons Well-Known Member Supporter

    No question, the CC half for sure, but I'm partial to seated coinage, so easy choice for me.
     
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  3. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    The half!
     
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  4. Steve Shupe

    Steve Shupe Active Member

    I think the morgan looks fake. The cam look just seems off to me. I would rather have the half.
     
  5. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Maybe. Probably would in the past but since I’m retired I’m getting organized.
     
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  6. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    I don't see anything wrong with the Morgan. As for which to buy, I'd lean toward the half if you want it at all, you like it, the cleaning isn't egregious, and the price isn't retail for a problem free coin. A quick peek at CoinFacts will tell you that it's much easier to find an 89-CC Morgan in VG-F already graded than it is to find a 73-CC half.
     
  7. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    Maybe view the coin, again.
     
  8. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    Neither.
     
  9. longshot

    longshot Enthusiast Supporter

    Just be sure you love the coin before you buy. (These aren't the only two out there.:))
    I guess my deal is I once paid 4 figures for a better date seated dollar, NGC slabbed, that had a cleaned look. The coin always bugged me.
    Just thoughts to chew on.

    I think the Morgan is real, I have coins that look just like it.
     
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  10. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    I keep telling myself I'll do the same, but myself knows better.
     
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  11. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I don’t. Lol
     
  12. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector

    I'm more suspicious of the 1873.
    There's a large "feature" to the left of the date and a very small "feature" to the right.
    That coin would have to be authenticated by NGC or PCGS before I'd consider it.
     
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  13. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    I see what you mean, but the "pimples" or "dimples" look to me to be honest hits, as does the stuff to the left of the date. That very straight "capped column" to the right of the date looks suspiciously regular, but it is indented, not in relief, and it could result from a hit.

    I'd be nervous about buying either coin raw, but that's because I'm not a Morgan or Seated collector, and I don't know enough to authenticate them myself. I'm just going by general principles I've learned here, and from looking at a lot of real and a few fake coins. For a purchase decision, I'd want to consult someone who knows the die pairings and pick-up points for these specific keys.
     
  14. NorCal

    NorCal Well-Known Member

    That’s why I asked the question, there are experts in Morgan’s and seated half’s here
     
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  15. NorCal

    NorCal Well-Known Member

    Thanks for everyone’s input. It really helps making my decision.
     
  16. Dynoking

    Dynoking Well-Known Member

    When I see a key date raw my radar turns on.
     
  17. Dynoking

    Dynoking Well-Known Member

    When buying coins don't let your money burn a hole in your pocket.
     
  18. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    The mint mark looks like it's in the right place for an authentic 73-CC no arrows. There is only one reverse used for all of them, and the date position looks like obverse die 1. Take a look at this document: http://www.lsccweb.org/BillBugertBooks/Bugert-Vol-II-CC.pdf, page 62, where you'll see other die markers, specifically a pair of tiny bumps in the eagle's right (viewer's left) wing that will probably be visible on the coin you're considering.
     
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  19. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Yeah, but they all start out raw...
     
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  20. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Not all key or semi key dates are slabbed. It’s good to have radar but I use it when buying any coin of value. Trust an honest dealer and look at the coin.
     
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  21. NorCal

    NorCal Well-Known Member

    I trust the seller. Been dealing with the shop for years. The half is the closed 3 that’s correct for the no arrows. I will look for the two bumps on the left wing. Thanks everyone
     
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