Poor Quality from the Mint on 2010 Cents?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by rygill, Feb 12, 2010.

  1. rygill

    rygill Junior Member

    This is a cent from a roll acquired at the Launch Cerimony on Feb. 11. Notice the scuff marks. I opened three rolls and they were all like this, in the same spots. Could it be bad dies?
     

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  3. Stilson

    Stilson Junior Member

    Can't see well enough, but what they go thru scuff marks are pretty much norm. Piling out of the dies in to masses of other cents. Being transferred around, going to be rolled, dumped again. If they went with kid gloves handling them the cost for minting cents would be even worse.

    Edit, just noticed the three had the same marks. Probably need close ups of the areas.
     
  4. Louie_Two_Bits

    Louie_Two_Bits Chump for Change

    I got one of the puerto rico rolls, with the intent to sell them on the bay, but after cracking open the roll, the obverse was covered in those scuff marks. The reverse ribbon had minor scuffs. But they were so bad, that I didn't want to sell these to anyone. So I ended up trading away most.

    I assumed it was the bank rolling machine that caused these. I definitely don't think these were caused by the dies.

    Let me grab one at post a pic...

    -LTB
     
  5. Louie_Two_Bits

    Louie_Two_Bits Chump for Change

    Ok, here are pics of a random coin I pulled from the roll. I positioned the lights so you could see the scuffs that we're referring. It almost looks like the Mint whizzed the coins. If you notice on the obv that the grain goes in two directions; crossing each other. :confused:

    Anyone have any ideas of what causes this in the Minting process?

    -LTB
     

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  6. Duke Kavanaugh

    Duke Kavanaugh The Big Coin Hunter

    Wow that stinks for brand new coins.
    Sure looks like a coin cleaning gone bad to me...
     
  7. fishaddicit

    fishaddicit Senior Member

    The scuffs do look terrible..but is that a die crack to the left of the 2?
     
  8. cerdsalicious

    cerdsalicious BigShot

    Are you sure its not a fake???
     
  9. Louie_Two_Bits

    Louie_Two_Bits Chump for Change

    Nah, I think the light caught a scratch just right to make it appear to be above the surface other than below.

    -LTB
     
  10. Louie_Two_Bits

    Louie_Two_Bits Chump for Change

    I agree, all of the coins are like this. Did the Mint use an abrasive polish, or perhaps new machinery that damages the surface when they're passed through to be rolled?

    Most of the scuffs can only be seen when turned in certain angles, as my pictures were trying to highlight the scuffs. But nonetheless, I was highly disappointed in the garbage the Mint put out there :crying:

    -LTB
     
  11. Louie_Two_Bits

    Louie_Two_Bits Chump for Change

    I don't think they're fake, just in poor quality. Besides, the OP got his rolls from the Release ceremony on Thurs, and his have the same type of scuffs.

    -LTB
     
  12. Stilson

    Stilson Junior Member

    The last picture dies show it good. Looks like they were pretty sloppy on die polishing.
     
  13. This is why I refuse to pay a premium on the new 2010 cents. I will wait until I can get rolls at face value from the back and keep the high quality ones and spend the rest. TC
     
  14. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Amen TC......:smile
     
  15. rygill

    rygill Junior Member

    Better Pic
     

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  16. Hudson James

    Hudson James Junior Member

    Its a business strike cent ..what were you expecting a MS 65?

    I think for the most part expectations are way to high so you are only setting yourself up for disappointment and alot of whining and complaining when it's much ado about nothing.

    Wait for the mint set if you want coins handled with some care.
     
  17. rockdude

    rockdude Coin Collector

    A die crack would be above the surface on a coin, so would a bubble under the plating.
     
  18. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Planchet striations from worn rollers combined with a poor strike that failed to fully fill the recesses of the die. Not at all unusual, and perfectly acceptable for a business strike coin from the Mints point of view. If it is identifiable and can be spent it works. They make these things to SPEND, not to be collectible works of art.
     
  19. mpcusa

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  20. bhp3rd

    bhp3rd Die varieties, Gems

    They normally come this way - sometimes you get a good box,

    They normally come this way - sometimes you get a good box, sometimes (often) you get a bad one.
    I've stated before on here that I normally get 10% at best from any given group whether it be a fifty coin roll or a 2500 coin box. Now I am picky but as my grandaughter so wisely tell's me, ("papa, you get what you get") so this is the state of made for circulating Lincoln Cents nowadays.
    The black marks and general scuffing are normal - I wish they were not but,,,
    The quality of Lincoln cent rolls ebbs and flows with the decades. That is why putting aside 125 gem coins pays off. It will always take a little while for folks to see they are not getting quality singles - that's where I come in.
     
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