Ancient coin offered to me locally

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  1. Rockymountaincoin

    Rockymountaincoin Active Member

    1639672418097_image0.jpeg image1.jpeg 1639672418097_image0.jpeg I am fairly new to ancient coins but hoping to learn more here and build a knowledge base before a collection. Can anyone tell me some of the history on this coin as well as a fair price to pay? Thanks guys for your patience with a novice collector and for any information image1.jpeg image1.jpeg
     
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  3. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

    That coin is far too blurry to be authentic! Just kidding ;) but better pictures would help. Off of what is given I would say $5-$15. You can search CT if you want to learn more about the man as he has had plenty of coins posted.
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    or google Tetrarchy.
     
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  4. Rockymountaincoin

    Rockymountaincoin Active Member

    Thank you for your reply. I will do some further research here and see what i can come up with
     
  5. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

    He's a common ruler with some honest wear on the coin, but a fun green patina. But I wouldn't buy it just because it's there. There are loads of reputable sellers at V coins, biddr etc.
    Ps, congrats on finding the fun of ancients and...
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  6. Rockymountaincoin

    Rockymountaincoin Active Member

    Guys thanks for your patience with a novice. I figured it would be a neat snag local if cheap enough. Something tells me the lady will ask for a large sum not knowing what it is. I will do some more research here. Looked like a neat coin with alot of time and history behind it
     
  7. GinoLR

    GinoLR Well-Known Member

    It is not Maximianus Herculius, it is Galerius.
     
  8. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    I collect these and would expect to pay around $45- 55, maybe a bit more as the condition is nice despite the verdigris. For the history of this coin and circumstances surrounding its issue, I have a page here-- http://www.constantinethegreatcoins.com/Carthage/
     
  9. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    Yeah,not a fan of the verdigris. If you are a newer collector, stay away from coins with powdery light green on them. Most of this coin is fine but 2 and 4 o clock obverse looks like verdigris, (bronze disease). These are way too common to start with one with that issue.

    I agree prices have been moving up on most late romans.
     
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  10. Rockymountaincoin

    Rockymountaincoin Active Member

    Victor clark, thank you for your reply and link with information about this coin.
     
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  11. Rockymountaincoin

    Rockymountaincoin Active Member

    Thanks all for the replies, now learning more and do not like the heavy verdigris so much. I'll see what the seller wants and take it from there. Thought it would be a neat out of the woodwork local pickup
     
  12. rrdenarius

    rrdenarius non omnibus dormio

    Who offered the coin? A dealer, a friend, a coin club member or someone else? I would offer $10 - $20 for the coin. It looks like an ok coin and I want folks in my area to continue to have ancient coins. If someone is offering it online, you should do some homework.

    You can look for ancient coins here. The prices varied a bit.

    acsearch.info - Auction research
     
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  13. Jovian363

    Jovian363 Well-Known Member

    I think this is a nice and healthy (verdigris is not bronze disease) coin with attractive and well struck reverse, well worth the amount suggested by Victor Clark, a very knowledgeable specialist in late Roman coinage.
     
  14. Rockymountaincoin

    Rockymountaincoin Active Member

    Some lady in the local classifieds send me a message about it
     
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  15. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

    Though, I do agree with the staying away from powdery neon green bronze disease, this coin has no BD on it.
    And verdigris is not BD. Verdigris is the natural patina. Most like it. I was surprised that @Victor_Clark doesn't.
     
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  16. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    For my Carthage coins, I prefer toned silvered surfaces; though I wouldn't pass on this one if I needed an example and think it would look nice in my tray.
     
  17. Fugio1

    Fugio1 Well-Known Member

    This appears to be a reasonably nice example, almost certainly authentic from what I can observe from the images. As @GinoLR points out, it is misattributed. The reverse type was produced only at the mint in Carthage and although plentiful, is not as extremely common as many follis reverses of this time period. @Victor_Clark is right on the approximate value. I personally like the green, but a sharper image would be helpful in an assessment.
     
  18. gsimonel

    gsimonel Well-Known Member

    Just want to add that the fact that this coin comes from Carthage adds extra interest, in my opinion. Also, the FELIX ADVENTVS reverse is scarcer and makes it more desirable than the SALVIS AVGG ET CAESS type

    Nowadays the cost of a coin like this would probably be in the $40-50 range. I checked VCoins and found only 1 example--not as nice--selling for around US$53.
     
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  19. Rockymountaincoin

    Rockymountaincoin Active Member

    The lady never got back to me. Wanted to sell, told her $50 and she never replied back. Probably thinks she had a million dollar coin. Asked a bunch of questions then became abit rude and never followed up....
     
  20. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    A very common happening on Cointalk, in all areas of coins. One gets use to it :)

    Jim
     
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  21. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    That is a fact. You (behind you back) probably have been called a crook trying to steal her treasure and she may well find someone else who knows nothing about the coin except anything that old has to be valuable. I value the memory of a dealer at a show in Baltimore that refused to sell me a coin at his marked price because, "If you want it, I must have missed something." Everyone knows that all coin people are crooks..... right?
     
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