On this 19D Lincoln cent, and yes I did mean to say 19D most of all the the letters in the inverse and reverse along with two digits on the date decided to not show up for work. No call no show! Mind giving me a crash course in this type of error if it's even an error at all. I think I read somewhere about this being some type of grease error? Pls tell me more..
On this 19D Lincoln cent, and yes I did mean to say 19D most of all the the letters on the obverse and reverse along with two digits on the date decided to not show up for work. No call no show! Mind giving me a crash course in this type of error if it's even an error at all. I think I read somewhere about this being some type of grease error? Pls tell me more..
Looks like some sort of chemical damage to me. There are certain substances (like acid) that will cause that kind of thing. I've messed around with my silver testing acid by using it on pennies and it looks very similar to that. My guess is someone had fun playing scientist with this penny.
@shilines looks like a 1997 It is Struck Through Grease error. Compacted debris that is in the incused areas of both the Obverse and Reverse die did not allow the image, letters and numbers to form properly when they struck the blank planchet. Here is an example from my collection @Gam3rBlake You looking to get into Mint Errors now?
Nice find and I agree with Paddyman. The well struck rims are a big part of Id'ing this as struck through grease as opposed to a low pressure or "die adjustment" strike. Grease filling the die recesses do not fill the (entire) rim gutter as a rule. EDIT: I wonder what the edge for the coin looks like. (Meaning, if there is any telltale sign of grease oozing/escaping from the rim gutter and affecting the strike against the collar die. Hmmm..)
It's a grease filled die error. Nice find FYI @Gam3rBlake the coin is a 1997D which means it's copper plated zinc. The copper plating typically runs 8 microns (0.0003") thick. If it was exposed to acid long enough to remove that much detail, there would be exposed zinc.
1997 D I think the rims are really strong due to the grease filled die and the displacement by the metal not being able to fill the recesses. Seems like everyone I've seen with that much grease filling has well defined rims. and yeah, as mentioned, the copper plating is pretty thin, to lose that much detail through chemical or mechanical means there would certainly be exposed zinc.
Yes, paddyman is 99.99% of the time correct shilines. He got it right again but I'm watching him so don't you fret. Happy holidays!
Agreed the grease acts like extra material between the dies and that results in a higher than normal striking pressure. The grease is basically incompressible though the die recesses do not strike up, but the rims are well formed. If there is grease in the area that forms the rim it can escape through the thin gap between the collar and the neck of the die so it doesn't stop the rim from forming.
It is NOT acid damage, instead a really nice struck through grease. Love to read that you have an idea of what you’re seeing! Typically on here people post random coins with no clue. congrats! Good find. I think it’s a very pretty/ugly one.
That’s a real struck through grease error. Definitely worth keeping. Congrats on the find. Also, it looks like a 1997-D.
Looks like it's pretty much unanimous then! Went to my storage the other day to grab my collection and my might be something coin jug that still after five years haven't completely gone through.This is where I found this coin.What would you say the value might be? And again thank you so much for all your honest opinions and a special thanks to @paddyman98 for always being a part of the things I post and for always giving me great advice and being right majority of the time with his views and opinions. Very knowledgeable collector I came to realize. Happy holidays to you all. More great post coming soon.
I was trying to think of a way to describe this and you say it so well. Thanks. The grease would escape through that slight gap so it wouldn't interfere with the metal filling the rim gutter.
I'd say most of us go on ebay and check sold listings for comparables to estimate a value. that wouldn't be the "selling it to a dealer price" that would be an "end user, auction" type of price. they can range from $2.00 to like $35.00 or so. i'd say yours with the level of "greasiness" on both sides, and still able to read the date would put it in the higher end, and not the lower.i could see that one selling for a $20.00 maybe a bit more with no problem. The smaller greasers that affect some letters or something, usually fall around $3-$8. yours is a nicer example of strong overgreasing, albeit, not in bright red condition though. I'd think $20 or so is a reasonable value for it, might be too high for a dealer that's looking to make a few bucks, but I think most folks would have no problem dropping a $20 on it as an end user and maybe more, if presented for sale with nice pictures to add it to their collection.
