More Coin Shipping Scams

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by bafflez, Feb 7, 2010.

  1. Lugia

    Lugia ye olde UScoin enthusiast

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  3. NotSure

    NotSure I'm sure I'm NotSure

    Great thinking, rlm!!!

    Though, nowhere does it say a seller has to combine shipping. If I think I could win multiple, or interested in multiple items from one seller, I'd look at his shipping/refund, then send a message asking about combined shipping. His DSR is going to get banged up at the very least, if not a neg also, if it happened to me. I'm not saying it's right, don't get me wrong, but there aren't any rules stating a seller has to combine shipping costs.


    Now, being charged for Priority, and receive First Class, thats just wrong, period.

    This seller doesn't need to wonder why he's at 94% feedback. I think 4.3 DSR rating is the WORST I've seen. If he's smart, he'll pop up with a new ebay account. I look at the feedback before going on to the description. With 94%, I wouldn't let that seller GIVE me a coin!!
     
  4. bafflez

    bafflez Online Cherry Picker

    That's actually not a half-bad idea. I tend to shop coins from sellers who offer combined or free shipping only these days, the exception would be when I purchase slabbed coins.

    For what it's worth, the seller I mentioned now has 25 negatives, 11 neutrals, and 333 positives in 5 weeks. This gives him a 4.3 rating on shipping charges, which is STILL not enough to get him thrown off ebay.

    Unreal.

    baff.
     
  5. onecoinpony

    onecoinpony Member

    On what policy grounds? I want to read that.
     
  6. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

  7. robbudo

    robbudo Indian Error Collector

    What would you specify in the claim with Paypal?



     
  8. bafflez

    bafflez Online Cherry Picker

    http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/feedback-abuse-withdrawal.html

    We don't allow Feedback comments that contain:

    • Links or scripts
    • References to eBay or PayPal investigations
    • Negative statements left for a buyer that conflict with the positive rating
    • Personally identifying information about another member, including real name, address, phone number, or email address
    • Political, religious, or social commentary rather than a genuine comment about the transaction
    • Comments, replies, or follow-ups that reference a completely separate transaction or unrelated experience
    • Profane, vulgar, obscene, or racist language, or adult material
     
  9. bafflez

    bafflez Online Cherry Picker

    35 negs, 11 neutrals as of today. They just keep rolling in. 4.3 Shipping cost rating, but he's still okay by ebay's standard.
     
  10. kangayou

    kangayou Junior Member

    1s2 Class vs Priority Mail

    First Class vs Priority Mail

    I am new here & to eBay and wondered what I could do if I chose priority mail as the method of shipping from a drop-down list because it was the same amount as the seller had listed for First Class , but when I got to PayPal checkout it reverted back to First Class with no option to change it to Priority ?

    This online purchasing is sort of scary.
     
  11. bafflez

    bafflez Online Cherry Picker

    I'd start by contacting the seller and tell him you were "overcharged on shipping and you are not happy about it" and "what can he do to rectify the matter", if he blows you off then you should report him/her to ebay here:

    http://pages.ebay.com/help/pay/shipping-problems.html

    You can report the violation by entering the item # at the link on the bottom of the page. It brings the matter to ebay's attention (sorta).

    Then, when you leave him feedback, leave a neutral or negative rating and say clearly in your comment "charged priority rate for first class mail" and leave him the lowest rating (1 star) under shipping charges. Don't worry about retaliation, he can't leave you negative feedback anymore - ebay changed it so sellers can either leave positive feedback or no feedback.

    However, if you sell on ebay with the same account you buy with, I recommend creating a "buying account" so sellers cannot mess with your own auctions. I had this happen to me once a long time ago when some sociopathic seller starting buying multiple items with his buyer ID after I left him a negative. He then left me a series of negatives and I couldn't do a damn thing about it.

    Usually a few people doing this makes the shipper stop unless they're serial rip off artists.

    -baff.
     
  12. Duke Kavanaugh

    Duke Kavanaugh The Big Coin Hunter

    I think some of you over do it about this shipping thing. Dont get me wrong...when they put $20 shipping for a $4 item that's crazy but I just wouldnt bid on it.
    If it say's it cost XXX bid or dont but if you do why complain about it.
    This doesnt mean if they say they will ship one way and ship a cheaper it's ok either.
     
  13. bafflez

    bafflez Online Cherry Picker

    I don't bid on anything with unreasonable shipping charges, period. But you get some people who do the whole "fee avoidance" thing where they think it's okay to make $4-5 extra off the shipping and think ebay will never know about it, so you gotta report them... If you don't they'll keep doing it over and over again.

    -baff.
     
  14. kangayou

    kangayou Junior Member


    Thank you Baff , should I wait to see how ( if ) the item arrives before doing anything as I did leave a comment to the seller at the time of check-out so if they have integrity they will mail it as advertised on eBay before it flipped over to check-out on PayPal. I wonder if that is an exploit sellers could technically use , referring to the transition from eBay auction site to the Paypal site and have details of the transaction change ?
     
  15. bafflez

    bafflez Online Cherry Picker

    That's not an exploit I've ever experience of heard of.

    Ebay owns paypal, so the data from the sale comes directly from ebay to paypal.

    You can always click the option to only search for items with FREE shipping on the left hand column in any category if you want to avoid sellers who overcharge.

    As for me, 98% of the transactions I have on ebay are problem free, even those with shipping charges.

    I will on occassion get the jerk who charges me for priority mail and pockets half that money and sends it parcel post. I don't even get mad anymore, I just report them, leave feedback telling others what he did, drop a 1 star under shipping charges, and that seller usually stops doing it. I even get my shipping overcharge back once in awhile. :whistle:

    -baff.
     
  16. kangayou

    kangayou Junior Member

    another eBay oddity

    I found it impossible to get an answer online or on the phone directly from eBay to a very simple question.

    I wanted to know if ALL item numbers are unique. The reason I ask is because I bought a coin and paid for it with PayPal and kept a copy of everything including the item number & then I found that same item number for an identical coin was bought from this same seller 3 hours later by someone in the Philippines ( I do not live in the Philippines by the way )

    My gut is screaming scam but maybe I just don't understand eBay item numbers ?

    Please Help:confused:
     
  17. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    The answer to your question is yes of no. If you are talking a normal single listing, each listing and item must have a unique number. You could not possibly run an auction with duplicate numbers. However, there are dutch auctions and multiple item listings where each listing sells more than one item per listing. The listing numbers are unique, but the item numbers are not unique.

    If you could link us to the listings you are referring, I could answer your question for sure.
     
  18. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    Sounds like a relist to me :(
     
  19. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    No can do! You still cannot have duplicate numbers active ever and have you site function. Active includes any auction you can search for and that included the completed auctions. That is why eBay gets rid of their closed auctions after 90 days. Sometime in the future, they are going to reuse that number.
     
  20. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"


    Hey rim,

    I have actually seen duplicate listings where the exact same
    Item was up for auction!! Using the same number! Iam not
    Sure how this was achieved but i have seen it more then
    Once with ny own:bigeyes: eyes
     
  21. kangayou

    kangayou Junior Member

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