1964 D- EX-rare lincoln cent 1964 D "4 point CUD Mud slide" ERROR

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by themansionshop, Feb 10, 2010.

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  1. ziggy9

    ziggy9 *NEC SPERNO NEC TIMEO*

    First off it isn't called a "barrel" its called a collar. We already know what the results are for a coin being struck with too much pressure in the collar. Its called a finned coin as there is a fin formed when some of the metal pushes past the die. Since we already know what happens in this instance this does not explain your coin.

    richard
     
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  3. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    You can make one with a small flat screwdriver and a small mallet.

    and it would still be worth a penny. Still post mint damage.

    IMO
     
  4. ziggy9

    ziggy9 *NEC SPERNO NEC TIMEO*

    I did NOt state that this coin was caused by a coin rolling machine. Go back and read it again. I merely pointed out how easy it is to move the copper because it is that maleable. Are you really this dense? I thought you were just pulling our chain!
     
  5. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    Maybe Mike diamond will stop in and put an end to this. I will bet mr. themansionshop does not even know who he is. But then he might be a little busy with his new job.
     
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  6. NotSure

    NotSure I'm sure I'm NotSure

    If you are a banker, then you KNOW you just made a libelous comment about me. That will be dealt with. But, before you disappear, EXPLAIN THE 'MATHEMATICAL PROCESS' THE U.S. MINT USES!!!!
     
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  7. Lather

    Lather Time traver Numismatist


    "'MATHEMATICAL PROCESS"... I love it.. LOL..
    Banker.. 15 year old Banker?
     
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  8. ziggy9

    ziggy9 *NEC SPERNO NEC TIMEO*

    This guy's a banker and doesn't even know the difference between counterfiet and defaced? Altering a coin from the mint will NEVER make it cointerfiet.

    Richard
     
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  9. themansionshop

    themansionshop Junior Member

    that's a really good question but I have the answer to that cause like I said earlier in the thread that I am an error collector and I know the process...so here it is
    the coin arrangement (designated áá) a coin held vertically between one's fingers with its obverse design right side up finishes with its reverse design right up when it is rotated on its vertical axis. Dies in coinage arrangement (áâ) will result in the reverse being upside down when the coin is turned as previously described.
    you see there? the coin is rotated by the finger and when this coin was rotated it must of have been mechanically rotated to where the finger actually let go of the coin in a matter of small portion for the finger to have clockwised rotated and in the same time wiped copper portion and formed the mountains.
    The collar (the piece of metal that restrains the sideways expansion of the blank during striking, thus forcing metal to flow into all incused design elements, and gives the coin its shape and edge design)
     
  10. NotSure

    NotSure I'm sure I'm NotSure

    You really have no clue as to the minting process (or 'printing' as you have referred to it many times).
     
  11. ziggy9

    ziggy9 *NEC SPERNO NEC TIMEO*

    Let me get this straight... you think they actually flip the coin during the striking process?
     
  12. NotSure

    NotSure I'm sure I'm NotSure

    NOW you call the collar a collar, and NOT a barrel! See? You learned something.....now, you should continue to read ALOT more...you might learn more.
     
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  13. ziggy9

    ziggy9 *NEC SPERNO NEC TIMEO*

    that makes one term he has gotten right!
     
  14. ziggy9

    ziggy9 *NEC SPERNO NEC TIMEO*

    one of these days I'm going to get around to writing that book..."Coin Errors for Dummies"
     
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  15. themansionshop

    themansionshop Junior Member

    It would be very hard to try to manipulate a coin once it's hardened after mint process,you know. using a screwdriver would ruin the coin and there are no ways you could make blobs or cuds or mountains with a small mallet or screwdriver
     
  16. themansionshop

    themansionshop Junior Member

    i was just telling you all the process of the mint print justt so you could all focus on how the error occured and hpefully have you all just calm down and respect this genuine error as is........:high5:
     
  17. ziggy9

    ziggy9 *NEC SPERNO NEC TIMEO*

    You didn't answer my question...do you think they flip the coin during the striking process?
     
  18. ziggy9

    ziggy9 *NEC SPERNO NEC TIMEO*

    I don't have to accept any such thing as my years of experience tell me this couldn't happen during the minting process.
     
  19. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    How many courses have you had in metallurgy? My one was enough to tell me that manipulating copper is easy and then I had 40+ years of experience. Yes, a screwdriver would ruin a coin - just like yours. And yes it could easily make blobs - just like yours.

    BTW, just where is any coin "hardened after mint process"?
     
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  20. Lather

    Lather Time traver Numismatist


    Oh my God Dude.. IT IS NOT AN ERROR! Your explaining how the mint works to Pro's... You Need to stop.. YOU are WRONG On ALL accounts..
    You need to Study.. I am a Novice compared to these guys.. But even I can see how off the mark you are..
    Please Just stop and listen, read, understand what your reading.. I hope your not buying these..
     
  21. NotSure

    NotSure I'm sure I'm NotSure

    Look, I'll spell it out for you. YOU came here looking for our 'thoughts'. You GOT those 'thoughts', which are our opinions. If YOU don't like those 'thoughts', or opinions, then forget about it, and move on to the next topic. YOU seem to be the only one that believes it is a 'rare or unique error'. Try this...Maybe, just MAYBE, with everyone saying it's NOT an error, MAYBE it's NOT. You CAN'T convince us it's what YOU say it is. WE don't have to like it. YOU don't have to agree with us, but don't try to make US believe what we know is not right. If YOU think it's a great error, then buy it and enjoy it. Why do WE just HAVE to think it's what you say it is? Drop it now...you CAN'T convince us it's anything but a permanently damaged, non-error coin. Enjoy what YOU like....why do you need OUR approval??
     
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