very odd 1946 GB penny any ideas please

This is a very odd 1946 GB penny, as the pictures show theres what appears to be damage to the edge rim of the coin both sides. However the coin is slightly larger in circumference & thicker than a standard 1946 GB penny and weighs a little bit more.
The edge rim looks to be folded over due to PMD but most of the edge rim detail is either in tact or covered over by an excess of material has anyone seen anything like this please ?

 

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DEFDAM - Definitely Damaged

I think it might have an old thin copper bezel added to the edge.. Maybe.

 

Cheers Paddy at first glance obvously it looks like its been run over by a train but some of these coins IMO deserve another look,
take care

 

Yep true just had a look at copper bezels - the copper bezel is another nugget of info for my list

 

Here is "run over by a train".

 

It's just damaged.

 

Mint error or PMD?

 

I think @paddyman98 's observation is the best answer. Without viewing the edges under a microscope, it's hard to tell, but a soldered on bezel would account for the additional size and weight.

 

Do you mean you can't tell?

It's not a Mint error, it's "PMD." Mint errors just don't look like this. The problem is nobody bothers to read about Mint errors. They just see something a little off and ask for an explanation on how it happened, like we're detectives, or something, and if we can't explain it, it's a Mint error. Isn't it easier to just read about Mint errors, first? It's kindergarten reading, it's not complicated. Collectors as young as grade-schoolers understand it. The alternative is everything a little off is a Mint error until proven otherwise, and that's just not right, it's backwards. Over time they're asking questions like, is this, below, a factory error, and if we can't prove it didn't come from the factory like that, it is a factory error. If one is that interested in Mint errors, read about them, and if one doesn't want to do that, then ask, but trust us, because we can't explain unless one knows something about Mint errors, it's plumb impossible...

 

Give it a break man, it went through the war, injured but intact. Come on, smile, Sunday humor. Have a good one!

 

The war was over when that coin was minted.

 

Well, obviously, the sharp-looking sports car you feature above for illustrative purposes was incorrectly assembled at the factory. Just look at that crooked door; it must be a Yugo!

 

Im still trying to refine my knowledge of error coins couldnt find anything similar online so I asked the question on CT as there seems to be someone who has come across most coins either PMD or error and Paddyman pointed me in the right direction possibly an old copper bezel which is now firmly etched in my mind for future use.
I agree its probably extremely annoying if newbies just post anything thats a bit bent on here as a poss error, but valuable replies on CT along with research is surely how we can refine our knowledge ?
your comment is greatly appeciated.

 

I didnt see anything wrong with the car but on second glance Im assumimg that its a synonym for something that went completely wrong or ended badly

 

Justyn, if you understood the minting process, how dies are made and the true errors and how they are created, you would understand why your coin is PMD.

What went wrong and ended badly is your coin. Life, circumstance and circulation…that’s what happened to your coin. It did not get damaged at the Mint.

 

That's not where you want to start, Justyn. If you want to refine your knowledge you want to start by reading about errors. If you only want to know if you got one, we'll tell you that, gladly, you don't have to look for similar online. To understand why we know, you have to read, though. Why? That's because that's how we know, we read. Are you beginning to get the idea? That's it, in a nutshell.

 

Let me rephrase this
1. I didnt suggest this was an error coin FYI Eddie & Spark I simply shared something that to me was as the thread suggested (very odd any ideas), although I posted the thread in errors (oops call the cops)
2. When i said couldnt find anything online I was reffering to E Books and websites that have been suggested by other helpfull members of the CT community
3. Paddyman supplied me with an informative reply
4. IMO if I was perturbed by a particular post I would just ignore it ?

Im no expert just passionate about coins
CHeers
JP

 

@justyn p …well, you confused us twice. First, posting the coin in the Error Coins Forum is suggesting it is an error. Second, saying it is an odd coin when it isn’t suggests a lack of understanding of basic minting tenets. This is not an odd coin. Every dent, fold, flap, gouge, scrape and smush is fully explainable.

But, I forgive you. Now you say it is not an error, and that is correct and I believe you. But I also believe you need to re-study how dies are made, because, ultimately, once you truly understand this basic tenet and then go back to your coin, you will see how it could not have been an error and immediately see it is only damage. Reading and research will answer a lot of those nagging questions you get from coins you find. @eddiespin

I remain open to any questions you have and will direct you to information that will help…imo…Spark

 

Guys, Guys..! It's a darn stupid coin. A Canadien Penny at that. Don't we have more important things to worry and argue about in our lives ?
Merry Christmas everyone!!Happy Holidays....

 

@SensibleSal66 …look again…it is a penny from Great Britain.