1877 IHC green death but nice grade!

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  1. AirborneReams

    AirborneReams Supporter! Supporter

    Hey all!

    I hope everyone had a great week! I have this 1877 Indian head cent that I’m ready to part ways and will be putting it up on my eBay store tonight or tomorrow, but I need some recommendations for the green spots. I know there’s nothing much I can do to her without further damaging her which I wouldn’t do either way. All I have is the classic coin conditioner from the wizard shop which is just good for older large cents I use on my personal collection have never used it to remove anything. I’m going to go with my gut to just leave it as is I just was hoping there was a safe way to lessen the green color. It’s more distracting in my pictures then in hand which makes me hate how I take pictures because it always shows more then you can really see with your eyes lol…

    -Travis


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  3. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    If I were you, unless there is very serious need for the money immediately , wait until Thad gets his solution back on the market. It will still have some visible damage, but much less and the fluid does inhibit further damage to an amount. Jim
     
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  4. AirborneReams

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    That’s a good idea is there an estimated time of arrival for the magic stuff? I don’t need the money but I did find some coins I would like to add to my personal collection so I guess I need the money.. lol
     
  5. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector

    Also consider NCS/NGC.
    Conserved with NCS and slabbed with NGC.
    It'll cost a bit but will end up getting you more money.
    It might not even sell as it currently is.
     
  6. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    +1
     
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  7. AirborneReams

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    Thank you I will look into that, I knew that they did some sort of professional restoration but did not know it could be for the green death
     
  8. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Agree. It's a damaged coin, and can never grade cleanly, but professional conservation and a details slab would very likely pay for itself when you're ready to sell.

    Then again, you can never tell what someone will pay on eBay. If the right buyer happens upon the listing, you might do all right with the coin as-is.
     
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  10. AirborneReams

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    Thus is true. I know some people don’t mind it as much as others, we will see. I think the best option is to list as is or wait for the famous thads remedy
     
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  12. Rheingold

    Rheingold Well-Known Member

    Sorry, but the damage is too severe on this coin:sorry:
     
  13. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    For a straight grade? Yes.

    Is it worth treating the coin to prevent further damage? I think so. I also think it would improve the coin cosmetically, although those pits will still be obvious.
     
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  14. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    I wish that I could concur with Jims statement that verdi care inhibits the rot. I believe that depends on what coin, and its medal composition. To my liking verdi care does an great job...but like cancer in humans you way win a battle or two...but in the end it wins. I have had good luck using verdi care...but I've also had the rot to come back or come back in another spot on the coin.
    The op has a good eye for the dates and series that will sell....but let this be a lesson learned that when its this bad run dont walk away no matter how cheap.
    Yes I've purchased detailed coins ,but picked ,and chosen only the ones that I could live with....
    When you collected coins for decades you learn which coins can be saved and what ones are doomed.
    Over the years unfortunately I have seen many key dates, and rare specimens that no matter what one would or could do to save them they aren't going to be worth much ,sort of in limbo great date but omg! Eye appeal heck no. Again its a personal choice as well what one can live with....
     
  15. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    That looks like active corrosion, and I wouldn't go near it if I were shopping for an inexpensive 77 to fill a hole, say. I think it makes sense to have it conserved at NCS (unless prohibitively expensive; do they give estimates?)
     
  16. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    I thought NCS had a flat fee, but it's listed as 4% of Fair Market Value. I have no idea how they'd determine that for a grossly damaged coin.

    ICG charges a flat $5/coin. @Insider might be willing to weigh in on this one if you're thinking of sending it there.
     
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  17. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    kanga, posted: "Also consider NCS/NGC.
    Conserved with NCS and slabbed with NGC.
    It'll cost a bit but will end up getting you more money.
    It might not even sell as it currently is.

    Don't waste your money. The green can be removed but it looks like the raised stuff on the obverse is there to stay.
     
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  18. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    1) Heavy verdigris, it has eaten into the surface. VC would help it but it's not going to remove heavy verdigris, it's not designed to.

    2) We'll be back around Jan 2022. Not only is it complicated to bring in a business partner, we've been quoted long delivery times on a some key raw materials due to the current chemical market.
     
  19. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    Given how advanced the corrosion is, they would not attempt conservation. They don't conserve every coin just because you have money. Some coins just cannot be saved.
     
  20. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    I offered at first to try and treat the coin, the second look I was this is way pass help. I didn't press the offer as I could do anything to save this specimen.
     
  21. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    It is a coin that has a high demand, so it will sell at a certain price as many desire it, even in a bad condition as long as the date and identifiers are present. Look at some coins such as 09S , 14D, 22-noD, 55DD, etc.

    Jim

    p.s. Hi Thad! Hope all is Well! Jim
     
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