Why does the U.S. mint not sell bullion coins to the public?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by bruthajoe, Nov 5, 2021.

  1. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Rather obviously it would be absurd. That 25k oz minimum applies to the ASE, not the AGE. And no, I don't know what the minimum is for AGEs, but Michael might.
     
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  3. bruthajoe

    bruthajoe Still Recovering

    Oh. I was referring to the gold buffalos in particular. Still relevant though with todays silver spot of 25.08, @ 25,000 ASE`s would then be $627,000 (at spot), but at the mints premium rate of around $75 for a 99.9 silver dollar that estimate escalates to 1.875 million. Again I wonder what the "bulk discount" is for these dealers.
     
  4. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    It's 1000 ounces for gold and 100 ounces for Platinum/Palladium
     
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  5. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    Youre confusing two different products. The 25k minimum is for the bullion versions not the numismatic collectors versions. Its a $2.35 premium per coin for the ASE bullion
     
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  6. baseball21

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  7. bruthajoe

    bruthajoe Still Recovering

    That's IT!!!! ONLY 2.35?
     
  8. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    I thought they had raised it to $2.50. I could be mistaken.
     
  9. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    Again its the bullion versions. The ones sold on their website for 70 or whatever have nothing to do with these
     
  10. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    They haven't updated their website if they did
     
  11. bruthajoe

    bruthajoe Still Recovering

    Laugha
    Laughable. I pursued the wrong career.
     
  12. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Given your comments I'm curious. So which is it, do you think they are charging too little or too much premium ?

    But before you answer please make sure you take into consideration that it is mandated by law that the US Mint make a profit.
     
  13. bruthajoe

    bruthajoe Still Recovering

    I may have this all wrong but...
    The mint does sell "bullion". The "bullion" they sell is otherwise known as proofs which are struck in 99.9% silver. The premium for these coins are 3x the content value. Grant it they take more care in the production of these coins being that they are "collectable" ( which IMO makes them not very "collectable"). The real collectable coins, such as an ASE, are nearly given away to dealers, in comparison, to be picked and sorted before they ever get to the public. This is my dilemma... What is the benefit of buying ASE`s from a dealer as opposed to buying bars from APMEX?
     
  14. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Sorry, and please forgive me for it, but I find that question rather humorous - because there isn't any advantage ! To the contrary, what little advantage there is, is in buying bars.

    I say that because pretty much everybody in numismatics, or about 90% of them anyway, including of course the US Mint themselves, consider ALL the bullion coins to be exactly that - bullion ! And nothing but bullion - with no numismatic value whatsoever ! And that is precisely why they are marketed and sold as bullion.
     
  15. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    Those aren't bullion.
     
  16. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Many, many fewer collectors? :p
     
  17. bruthajoe

    bruthajoe Still Recovering

    It's close..99.9%. I didn't mean it literally. I was using the term "bullion" as a closest example of what is publicly available.
     
  18. bruthajoe

    bruthajoe Still Recovering

    Haha see! He said "COLLECTORS".
     
  19. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    No it's not even remotely close to bullion. Something simply being made of a PM doesnt make it bullion
     
  20. bruthajoe

    bruthajoe Still Recovering

    First of all I said "closest". It was comparative. It's the closest the mint offers for an example. Why are you taking my words out of context and rebutting. You are not explaining anything and only criticizing my posts. Defend the product all you want but without insulting me please.
     
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