Post your Lost & Stolen coins thread

John,

Glad your coins were found , and hopefully they’ll be returned soon. One advantage of private insurance is that if the stolen items are found, they have the expertise and legal muscle to go after the thieves. Doesn’t affect your pocketbook … they would have already paid your claim … but very satisfying to see the bad guys busted.

Cal

 

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Update on this:

I had to hire a lawyer in Toronto to file some forms with the Justice of the Peace and represent me, since the auctioneer contests my claim (to my own stolen property). After taxes and fees this will cost me close to $4000. My lawyer thinks I have a great case, however, and she seems to have taken an enthusiastic interest in my case. Well worth it to get back my coins and hopefully, eventually stop the chain of theft (if that’s ever successfully investigated by Postal Inspectors and Police down the road).

 

This is an excellent idea

 

This whole thing is rediculous. If he did get it from an "undeliverable lot", where is his proof of that? Sounds like they had a quick excuse on hand so either anticipated a problem like this eventually happening, because they buy stolen property regularly, or he did get it from there, which I find unlikely. Also, I'd definitely have the postal inspector investigate that. Try to find where in the chain it was stolen and get someone. Its the kind of thing that makes you want to be a vigilante. Lol

 

Coin theft is accelerating and postal and shipping services is a weak link

 

I’m still waiting on my lawyer to get back to me on the situation. Right now it’s in “the system.” But the USPS postal inspectors office called me saying they were closing the case since they couldn’t find any new evidence. Shady if you ask me. They also said the Canadian police were leading the investigation so they were closing theirs.

 

John,

You should report this case to Canadian Coin News. They should find it interesting enough to do an article on it. A little bad publicity for the auction company that has your coins would be a good thing for your case. Who knows? They might actually do the right thing.

Cal

 

For the sake of not feeding my own anxiety, I’m staying out of it and just letting my lawyer handle it. For now...
If for some reason the Justice of the Peace decides against me, then I’ll look at it again and move forward.

 

I got excited for you and thought this was resolved. Sorry to hear that you haven't got the coins back. Seemed like an open and close case. Especially when the guy said he bought an undelivered lot.
Unbelievable, not too mention having to do it across borders.
Good luck.

 

it is stolen goods --period

 

That’s what I’m hoping the Justice says.

 

“Obtained them from a lot of undeliverable mail.”

What a strange thing to say as an excuse to not hand over the property. That seems to be more incriminating if anything. Someone else’s name is still on undeliverable mail, I don’t see why it wouldn’t still be a federal crime to open it much less remove the contents and auction them. Hope the lawyer finds some fine print that applies to this and you get your stuff back.

 

Update on the OP coins:

After months, a Judge just signed the order to release the coins back to me. My lawyer has been great, but the slow court systems in Toronto combined with Covid procedures meant that this took 9 months from seizure to release order. Anyway my lawyer is picking the coins up for me from police storage next week and sending them back insured via FedEx. I still won’t fully be able to celebrate until they’re back in my hands, but the auctioneer did not challenge. Most likely because if he did, he would be opening himself up to prosecution in the chain of theft. My lawyer says he sent her “a lengthy email supporting the return of the coins to the owner.” I’ll make another post on this when I get the coins back in-hand.

 

Glad to hear that things are going your way.
This reminded me of Jello though and that I haven't seen any other posts since this thread started.
@Paddy54 did you ever hear from him?

 

I have his contact information, I was hopeful to see him 2 years ago when in Denver on business. But he had plan to take his girl friend to Vegas that week.
I wouldn't have had much time to spend with him as my schedule was full at the sales meeting and food show.
I could of got him a pass to attend the open bar and dinner...but he wasnt in town.
He seem to be doing well...and happy.
I do miss him we were close buddies.

 

Thats great news, glad to hear your getting them back!

 

In 2019, during the Apollo 11 memorial coins, I bought just about everything that the Mint sold. I also found that the Canadian Mint had also produced a very nice silver Apollo 11 coin. I don't know what happened, but the Canadian Apollo 11 coin was no where to be found. I went through every box that I had coins in with no luck. I keep my coins from other countries in a separate box.
This past Sunday, I was getting ready for church (I hadn't gone for a while.), I decided to wear a pair of shoes I hadn't worn for a while. Long story short... When I tried to put my shoe on, it had something in the toe. I have no idea how that coin got into my shoe, but there it was. At 73, soon to be 74 in December, I guess I have some type of dementia. But, at least I found it.

 

My wife keeps telling me that I am starting to have Alzheimer's.

She still hasn't realized that I only have it with her.

Because I have selective deafness.

If I hear her I sometimes even remember it.

 

@C-B-D Have you heard anything on whether the police or the postal service is following up on finding the thief? It shouldn't be that hard to follow the trail backwards and catch everyone involved and then prosecute them. I'm also curious how the Canadians got into this mess. Were the coins ever in the Canadian mail system? Or did they just "appear" at a Canadian auction house for sale? USPS should want to follow up on this, but I know they are undermanned and seemingly seldom care about such things. The cop in me wants the bad people found and punished!

 

I'm glad you got the coins back, but a hard (and expensive) lesson to learn.