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Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Al Kowsky, Nov 15, 2021.

  1. Al Kowsky

    Al Kowsky Well-Known Member

    While browsing through 2 X 2 storage boxes I stumbled on a coin purchased many decades ago that was never identified :meh:. I can't make up my mind if it's a modern fake, a Roman Republican denarius, or an ancient fake (fourree). What do you guys think o_O?
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    Weight 3.50 gm, diameter 20.25 mm
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  3. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Ancients Roman Republic
    C. Coelius Caldus (ca. 104 BC). AR denarius. Head of Roma left, wearing pendant earring, necklace and winged helmet decorated with griffin crest / CALD, Victory in fast biga left; R in exergue. Crawford 318/1b.

    Looks like a fourree (break seen on obverse with underlying bronze?) but you're in a better position to make that call with the coin in hand.
     
  4. Jay GT4

    Jay GT4 Well-Known Member

    Coelius Caldus about 104 BC. Lots of control marks on these.

    Crawford 318/1b

    Edit: Posted at the same time as TIF
     
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  5. Al Kowsky

    Al Kowsky Well-Known Member

    Many thanks to TIF & Jay :happy:! My gut feeling was a Republican fourree, but the unusual left facing Roma & Victory in quadriga gave me more doubts. If you click the images for a larger view deep pits can be spotted on both sides of the coin & the light weight adds to a fourree attribution :p. CT members are always helpful ;).
     
  6. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

    Man, that is a cool coin:cigar:. Check out the angle on the biga:singing:
    I do love RR fourrée, and cannot recall ever seeing one that that was a modern repro. Could and or would a modern forger make fourrées just to make a buck?
    As TIF pointed out, the break at 11:50 on the obverse, possibly, as well the spots on her helmet, is where I'd be looking for signs of bronze with my microscope:pompous:.
     
  7. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    This is the version Banti 3/2 (B:) with (C)COIL below the horses and CALD in exergue. Crawford 318/1a. The control letter moved to above the horses. I feel unusual being the one to show a solid version. Usually I have the fourree.:happy:
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  8. Al Kowsky

    Al Kowsky Well-Known Member

    Doug, Thanks for posting :happy:. It looks like the real version wouldn't win a beauty contest either :smuggrin:.
     
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