Print ca 1853 to identify coins used in international trade.

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  1. Vertigo

    Vertigo Did someone say bust?

    I have waited a week for this to end so I could drop my rocket bid and bring it home. It ended a few minutes ago and I won it. Besides coins I collect old documents. So this was a nice coin related document to add to my collection.
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  3. Maxfli

    Maxfli Well-Known Member

    Those are genuinely cool. Do you know what the page dimensions are?
     
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  4. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    I sound dumb but - what do the values mean? The contemporary exchange rate or the contemporary market value?
     
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  5. serafino

    serafino Well-Known Member

    It appears to be the contemporary exchange rate. It shows a Naples 120 Grana Silver crown to be worth - $.93
     
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  6. serafino

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  7. dltsrq

    dltsrq Grumpy Old Man

    Foreign coins were legal tender in the United States until 1857.
     
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  8. Seattlite86

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  9. Vertigo

    Vertigo Did someone say bust?

    According to the seller 8"x11" I will probably have them framed at some point. They will look nice. I have been buying paper a long time but this is the first time I've seen something like this.
     
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  10. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Great pick up.
     
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  11. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Yeah, I think you're right. Look at the "Old Half Eagle", value listed is $5.25 - for a $5 coin. But, that coin had a higher gold content than US gold coins in 1853. But the US silver dollar has a value of $1, (and nowhere near a dollars worth of silver in it), so them being exchange rates makes sense.

    The page for the higher value gold coins appears to be missing though.
     
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  12. Vertigo

    Vertigo Did someone say bust?

    Yes I thought there might be a page or 2 missing. I think the 1853 was a rough guess. His description said somewhere between 1850 and 1860. So around then estimated.
     
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  13. serafino

    serafino Well-Known Member

    What's interesting is they show some Naples and Sicilian silver coins that were minted in the 1730's and at least one from the 1690's.

    The newest coin on the charts that I can see is 1853
     
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  14. Maxfli

    Maxfli Well-Known Member

    If you have them framed, please post photos. I'd like to see them.
     
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  15. rte

    rte Well-Known Member

    Very nice.
    I imagine the copyright is up on those.

    You should sent them to me so I can duplicate them before you get them framed.
    I'll make some negatives and actually offset print on some old paper.
     
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  16. Kentucky

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    Seriously cool...
     
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  17. willieboyd2

    willieboyd2 First Class Poster

    Nice numismatic items!

    There are probably more pages out there as I did not see an Indian rupee but there were 1/2 rupees.

    :)
     
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  18. serafino

    serafino Well-Known Member

    I think those copies would sell
     
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  19. Jaelus

    Jaelus The Hungarian Antiquarian Supporter

    A great piece. Congrats.
     
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  20. rte

    rte Well-Known Member

    There's an idea, Would have to get vertigo on board.
    Another question came to mind...at the current paper size are the coins true to life?
    If it doesn't make a difference, it could be enlarged 200% for wall art.
     
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  21. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Just an idea but I would think a bit of research is in order to try and find out who would have ever printed something like this and exactly who would have used it given the time period it's assumed to be from.

    I mean in 1850-1860 this isn't something your average bank or average merchant would ever have. But I have no doubt there could have been specific banks, but only a few I would think, who could have had and used something like these. Finding out could be even more interesting than the sheets themselves.
     
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