Is this a counter die clash? I was looking on Maddieclashes and it looks similar but I didn’t see one that was exact… anyone who is more familiar I’d appreciate your input very much.
I looked at all the pictures and I'm not seeing any clash at all. I see a few plating issues but nothing else.
I'm with Paddyman98. Unless you can spell out the areas in words or images, I'm not seeing any counter clash. The only anomaly I noticed was a raised line going WNW off the base of column 1, but with all the environmental issues for the coin, I don't give it much importance. That is probably an issue with the zinc core being affected by the environment it was in (staining). FYI- An obverse counter clash would have secondary obverse design elements, usually letters (and not reversed like a vise job). http://www.maddieclashes.com/cclt2-1c-1983-01/
At this point in the fade, it is very bright and colorful. Unfortunately, just another anomaly of the zincoln. Good luck.
For a regular clash that is a great reference, but the OP mentioned counterclash. (They are similar but have distinct differences.)
Can anyone without me screwing up my computer again tell me what a counter Clash is in simpleton words ??? Thanks almighty !
Sal, Counterclash @ error-ref.com seems to have the simplest descriptions. Hope this helps. -Type 1: http://www.error-ref.com/counterclash_type_i/ "Definition: -This type of die clash must have at least two different sets of clashes to form. -When the first set of clash marks are formed on the opposing die, they become part of that die’s unintentional design. -If a second clashing of the dies occurs, that unintentional design element or clash mark is then clashed back to the original die that it came from. -However, the clash mark will be offset in position from the original design element that created the initial clash mark. ...." -Type 2: https://www.error-ref.com/counterclash-type-ii/ "Definition: -Type II counterclashes trace their origin to a stray piece of hard metal that invades the striking chamber. ....... -The object receives an initial strike, which leaves it with a raised design on one or both faces ...... -The object then shifts position within the striking chamber and is struck again. This transfers the design back to the die face in the form of an incuse mirror image." Maddieclashes.com has different varieties listed. http://www.maddieclashes.com/type-i-and-type-ii-counter-clashes/
@SensibleSal66 Here's a good example from my personal collection. My photos didn’t turn out good but on the reverse you can see the entire outline of the Indian Princess Head. Very nice in hand.
@SensibleSal66 here is a type 1 counter clash for info. First clash transferred dentils to reverse die, subsequent strike struck those dentils to the coin in a slightly offset position, on the rim
