Vietnam Tien Identification Help

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by Mark Metzger, Nov 8, 2021.

  1. Mark Metzger

    Mark Metzger Well-Known Member

    These three came to me as part of a larger lot of world coins. I know next to nothing about them and have done some digging. The Large one (7 tien) looks fake to me…seems too light and cheap to be silver. The two smaller ones I’m having trouble identifying…I found one similar to the one with dots around the edge but it is supposed to be gold…
    Anyhow, I’m clearly lost and would love assistance. I’m not into them for much at all, so if they are all reproductions, I won’t hurl myself from the roof.
    Thanks!
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  3. Muzyck

    Muzyck Rabbits!

    The holders have the Shroeder catalog numbers and dates on them so it's not really clear what info you are looking for. I can translate to KM numbers if it would help. I would agree that the large one looks a bit odd for the type. The others look fine. Very nice coins that go for big bucks when you can find them.

    Here is a link to some other issues under the ruler of the large coin for comparison. Yours like like a replica(?) of KM437, 3 Tien. If it is, it should weigh 13.1g.

    https://www.zeno.ru/showgallery.php?cat=15388

    The bottom looks like KM184, 1 & 1/2 Tien. KM lists the weight from 5.0 - 6.0G
     
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  4. Mark Metzger

    Mark Metzger Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the insight. I’m not familiar with Shroeder numbers so if you could convert to km that would be great. What sort of value do the small ones carry?
     
  5. Mark Metzger

    Mark Metzger Well-Known Member

    I found this online…it matches the large one perfectly. I’ll get a weight tomorrow. 41FC2E30-5E74-4142-B6FD-66875982F1D5.png
     
  6. Mark Metzger

    Mark Metzger Well-Known Member

    But then here’s one that sold on heritage and it looks different (more authentic and less reproduced).
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  7. Muzyck

    Muzyck Rabbits!

    I would not want to guess on the values.

    The large coin is KM467. It lists for $1,000.00 in XF in KM. Here is the image for that cat.

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  8. Muzyck

    Muzyck Rabbits!

    That looks like a different coin, 347C. The one I posted above is 347B, 26.6G
     
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  9. Mark Metzger

    Mark Metzger Well-Known Member

    That’s correct…different coin 347C indeed…like I said, I know next to nothing about these types.
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  10. Mark Metzger

    Mark Metzger Well-Known Member

    I weighed the coin today and it came up a little bit short (25.73) of the posted 26.60 on the NGC guide listing. I am leaning towards a fake because upon careful consideration, some of the elements of just seem a little rude/sloppy compared to the slabbed authenticated examples found online
     
  11. jgenn

    jgenn World Crown Collector

    There is some authoritative sounding opinion on the internet that these are cast however I have a 7 Tien of Minh Mang that exhibits milled/press struck characteristics. I would be interested in knowing whether your examples look cast or not. Especially, the 1-1/2 tien of the same period. Can you tell if it has a reeded edge?
     
  12. Mark Metzger

    Mark Metzger Well-Known Member

    Hey there @Loong Siew and @Justinokay I saw a thread where you both expressed some knowledge of this series. Do you have any thoughts about the authenticity of the three in the original post…specifically the 7 tien?
    Thanks!
     
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