Need help with a 1966 NMM Kennedy half

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Dynoking, Oct 29, 2021.

  1. Dynoking

    Dynoking Well-Known Member

    This coin has a mirror finish that you can use to comb your hair with. At first I thought it was polished or plated.
    The obverse device has the same mirror finish as the fields. The date, all lettering and the reverse device are cameo frosted. Striations appear in the fields on both sides. The cloudiness and color(s) in the fields that show in the pictures are reflections, the actual coin is simply highly reactive with a perfect mirror finish and a “hula hoop” cartwheel on the obverse and a perfect spoke on the reverse when rotated. The pink in the middle picture is my finger 12” over the coin. In hand and while using a 10X loop and a 10X/20 stereo microscope all details are crisp. It weights in at a normal 11.35 and the edge shows the copper core like a 40%'er should.
    I know there were no proofs made in 1966 and it rivals any proof that I ever saw. I am stumped to explain this coin. Any thoughts?


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  3. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    What is the weight?
     
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  4. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    Polished and buffed. Wait for more opinions...
     
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  5. Dynoking

    Dynoking Well-Known Member

    11.35
     
  6. Dynoking

    Dynoking Well-Known Member

    My first thought, but how can the frost on the lettering and the eagle be explained?
     
  7. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    What is "NMM"? No mint mark? If so, I wish people would stop calling them this. It's just a Philadelphia minted coin and it's a given that none of them had mint marks until like 1989 or something. Sorry but this is a pet peeve. Your coin looks like something from Littleton, i.e. highly polished and buffed. Possibly even plated.
     
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  8. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    I'd be careful if I were you. @charley might not take to kindly to your pet peeve. He's the same way with people who complain about the misuse of words that sound like contractions. He's always right, you know!
     
  9. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    Yikes!! Yelling At Cloud Attack in Room 6, again! That is #5 in 3 days Dr.!! I am concerned!!
    Has he started piddling himself, yet, Nurse?
    No, Dr.
    Then don't worry. Call me when he does.
     
  10. Dynoking

    Dynoking Well-Known Member

    If it's a pet peeve why did your reply start with two questions asking for clarity of what does NMM mean? Did you develop a pet peeve based solely on what my title may have meant? Would you have replied at all if I did not include NMM in the title? What makes you so wonderful that people should or should not do things that are your pet peeves? Who cares what your pet peeves are. If the use of established numismatic acronyms bothers you so much perhaps you should find a different hobby and leave the rest of us alone. You must be a lot of fun in the line at the bank or at the DMV.
    If its possibly plated why does the edge show the copper core?
    If it's possibly buffed or polished why does the motto and the device show frost, the fields show striations and the coin show cart wheels?
    Do you have any numismatic knowledge to answer these questions?
     
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  11. l.cutler

    l.cutler Member

    It really looks polished to me. The reverse may have been done with a small buffing wheel like a dremel, going around the devices.
     
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  12. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Polished or plated but it ain’t natural.
     
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  13. Razz

    Razz Critical Thinker

    In 1966 there were no mm on any of the US minted coins. 1965 and 1967 as well. Were all the coins of those years minted in Philadelphia? No.
     
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  14. mrweaseluv

    mrweaseluv Supporter! Supporter

    yup yup polish job without a doubt
     
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  15. TheFinn

    TheFinn Well-Known Member

    SMS piece. Not polished, just removed from a set.
     
  16. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

  17. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Look closely, those surfaces should have radial flow lines.
    Look for the luster
    Both these coins show what I am talking about. From an SMS set.
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  18. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Most SMS rival the proof editions.
    As you can see in the photo below another SMS Kennedy I have
    The coin is highly reflective. Then compare it to the Proof below it.
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    One thing you will see in both photos is luster. If the surfaces don't look like the above then you have a whizzed coin.
     
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  19. Dynoking

    Dynoking Well-Known Member

    Coin defiantly has luster as I described in my original post. Thank you for providing this info and pictures! What caught my eye with this coin is how this SMS rivals many proofs like you state. Truly unique!
     
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  20. Gary Coker

    Gary Coker New Member

    Sir can you elaborate more on what you describe as radial flow lines. Still Learning and you clearly seem to know what you are talking about.
     
  21. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Radial flow lines happen upon the striking of all coins. because of the convex shape of the dies the center of the dies are what makes contact with the planchet first. It forces the metal outward towards the rims, Kind of like a sunburst look. These lines are always present on the surfaces of a coin. Some almost invisible to the naked eye as in an early die state proof coin, And some extremely visible. The flow lines will worsen as the dies strike more coins.
     
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