Type B Washington Quarters

Is this a Type B?

 

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I don't believe it is. The A in dollar does not appear to be connected to the leaf, the S is too high and too close to the E.

 

Tonite was a busy night for high grade, tougher date, PCGS attributed Type B Washies (as well as a '64-D Type C).

On Ebay, ending at 9pm ET, an attributed 1962 Type B PCGS MS65 (11 in grade, with 2 better, total population in ALL grades is 48) ended up at $210, which, in my opinion, is a pretty good price (strong, considering what they were commanding less than a year ago, and at the same time, a good price for the buyer, given the pops). Also of note on ebay, there was a 1957 attributed PCGS Type B MS65 (41 in grade, 38 higher, total population 138), that fetched $60.99....not bad considering there are 38 graded higher, and it's one of the more common dates. There were a few other lower grade (MS64) Type B's that sold. Expect lower graded coins to move up slowly/eventually (by lower grade, I mean lower MS...I don't anticipate circulated examples will be 'gangbusters'....at least not in my lifetime).

Over on Teletrade, ending at 10pm ET, there was a 1961 Type B PCGS MS65 (15 in grade, with 2 better, total population 56). This coin was bid up to $190, yet after all was said and done, didn't sell (the owner must have wanted to see ALL the money, as PCGS lists the coin at $250...and while the coin is worth all the money, I think the seller would have made alot on it, considering an attributed 1961 Type B PCGS MS65 sold on ebay in the last 8 months or so, for $40!). Though, there was another 1961 attributed PCGS Type B MS65 that was on Heritage a few nights ago. Apparently, people were asleep at the wheel, as that one was literally STOLEN for about $85, including the juice (if I wasn't one of those asleep at the wheel, it NEVER would have gone for that cheap).

There was also an attributed PCGS 1964-D Type C MS63 (6 in grade, 10 finer, total pop in all grades is 23...a TOUGH coin). This coin was presented for the 3rd time on TT in the last month and a half-2 months. It has been bid up to $400 in the past....getting bid to $360 tonight (ultimately, not selling due to seller reserve/buyback). This coin, while extremely tough, is currently not going to bring THAT kind of money (in the future, more than likely, but the seller is looking for MS64 money...the last 64-D Type C PCGS MS64 on TT was in April '09 (just 9 months ago), and that coin sold for $275. ( short months later, that coin was sold for $450...not a bad return for 9 months of patience.

Now that NGC is going to attribute these Type B's, there should be a nice price movement (there already was a good price movement before the NGC announcement). Unfortunately for NGC, where they got in the game so late, most of these that WERE in NGC slabs (the higher grade examples) were submitted to PCGS for the attribution, as even though the markers are plain to see with the naked eye, if the label didn't show the attribution, highest prices just couldn't be realized by these Type B's in NGC slabs. Even unattributed examples in PCGS slabs don't realize the same prices as an attributed label would (though this is starting to change in the cases of PCGS coins that aren't attributed). The examples remaining in NGC slabs has to be minimal, at best, and except the ocassional high grade, COMMON date, the majority left must be in lower grade slabs.....not making it fiscally smart to spend the money to get them attributed (this could/should change though).

Now, besides all my PCGS (both attributed and unattributed) Type B's, those in ANACS slabs (only have the tougher dates in ANACS.....1956, 1961, 1962), and all my raw examples (only gem BU raw examples.....also, I used only gem BU Type B's for '56-'64 'P' mint coins for my Dansco), I'll have to find the few dates left in old, unattributed NGC slabs to complete THAT run of Type B's.

 

This is a great thread. I looked through some BU quarters I had purchased back in July (before I knew about this variety) and found 8 Type B's as follows:

1956 x 1
1958 x 5
1961 x 1
1963 x 1

Some are really strong strikes with few if any marks. I also just purchased a 1959 mint set from a local dealer with a great looking Type B quarter. I am looking to complete the silver set of these (likely unattributed) and maybe the (1969-1972) clads if I can ever find them. TC

 

Good luck with the clads, TC!!! Those are almost non-existant. If I didn't actually see one with my own eyes, I'd still question if they were real!!! IF you find any, let me know, as I'm in New England too....take all you want, just leave me one of each!!! LOL

 

Thanks for the update NotSure.
I'm still looking for them. I've actually had better luck finding Franklin TyII's.

 

Recent find:

 

Nice find. Where did you find it? TC

 

Almost looks like there's some 'textile' toning on that obverse, WashQuartJesse. Cool obverse! Seems to be a bit more action on these now that NGC is attributing them. But, remember, PCGS graded Type B's (as with pretty much all coins) are fetching the $$. Though, I haven't seen one that is actually attributed by NGC listed yet (I figure it'll be a short time till I do see one, where they just offered the service this month). No knocking NGC, just facts is facts. Though, without actually having seen a properly attributed NGC example, I just don't know if the prices will be comparable. In MY experience in crossing unattributed NGC Tytpe B's to PCGS, I've experienced a 1 point grade drop before PCGS seals it up. How the market accepts them has yet to be discovered, but that'll be coming any time now.

Some prices realized on the 'bay have been rather healthy, even for MS64 (better dates only). I'll try to resurrect another thread from another forum (I'll check with the originator before doing so, but don't expect a problem, as that particular person has been a BIG proponent of these).

Another factor in prices realized MAY be affected by their inclusion in the NGC registry sets, so, perhaps we ought to petition NGC to include these (if it hasn't been done already....haven't had time to check it out yet, so if they ARE including them now, all I can say is 'whoops, sorry!').

Also, don't forget the '69-D-'72-D clad Type B's. Though not recognized in the Cherry Pickers Guide yet, they DO exist (MUCH rarer than the silver versions of '56-'64), though early consensus is not many will be really high-grade. BUT, keep an eye out for them. Similar PUP's, so watch for them (I'll try to get images of the/a clad example).

 

I looked at alot of the the 69 and 72's and none yet but I wont give up

 

lol I'd rather not say Top Cat, hopefully not from you?

 

I just recently checked all of my original BU rolls of the '68-'72 quarters as well as most of my singles and didn't find a single example. I only have a couple safety deposit boxes left to check.

The problem might be that in those days I concentrated on finding high grade examples mor than varieties. On the plus side if there is one it will be gemmy. Another problem is that some years I might have looked at as few as a single bag of coins with lots of spot checking. If the type "d" wasn't released where I was then I'd miss it in unc. There should be a few of these in with my circs which I'll locate one of these days.

 

I have 2 BU rolls of 1958 and 1 roll of 1957 Washington quarters. I have gone through 1 roll of 1958's and found 10 nice BU Type B's. Now on to the other roll of 1958's then the 1957. Very imformative thread.

 

flyers10, post some pics!:thumb:

 

I will give it a try. Not the greatest coin photographer. Checked the second roll of 1958's. None in that roll. Now the 1957 roll.

 

Just a little curious, Would this be considered a toned coin? Or a dirty
One??

 

Looks like a toned one and a nice one at that.

 

It looks like album toning to me. It probably looks different in hand also. Nice contact-free reverse!

 

Here is my shot at photographing it. My lighting stinks I know.

 

I have no idea how to make those pictures bigger. Used the Macro setting on my camera and they came out that small. I am running windows 7. Any ideas?