1833 Half Dime Rare Variety?

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  1. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    I have so many books....some paid upwards of 200 +$ but you need to read...its more than putting little round disc in a hole!
     
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  3. Publius2

    Publius2 Well-Known Member

    That's not a bad habit - it's a great one. Unless you've bought a book that I want.
     
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  4. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    I bought Blythe and Logan/McCloskey shortly after they were published. Added Valentine later. I can say that I've attributed all of my meager half dime holdings.
     
  5. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Im on the hunt for both 1852 and the 52 o I went through the hoard and was like oh shoot no 52's!
    However not a date I recall seeing in many dealers cases.
     
  6. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    @Publius2 I scored one of the books I've been hunting this morning for $30 waited It out , no other bidders so bingo I won.
    Now cant wait to get it.
     
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  7. Publius2

    Publius2 Well-Known Member

    Cool! I love to add to my library. More tonnage for my kids to deal with.
     
  8. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Well no kids here..... so every time the wife makes me mad....I add another log...lol she will out last me by 30 years
     
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  9. bikergeek

    bikergeek Well-Known Member

    @AirborneReams, I saw your post when it was new but I wanted to wait until the final chapter was written on this 1833 half dime's story before I replied. I was the "eagle eye," but I also had some confirmation from a super-expert. The scruffy raw 1833 half dime is an 1833 LM-3.5. It also has the early (retained) form of the cud over NITE. The John Reich Collectors Society (JRCS) identifies this remarriage as an R7 (rarity 7 on the Sheldon scale, estimated 4-12 pieces extant). Once you identify the obverse and reverse and know that you've got an LM-3.x remarriage, you can look at the Logan McCloskey book, p 73 (remarriage chart for Reverse T). For that workhorse die, the 12th use was on 1832 LM-8.5, where the serifs on IT become solid. When it progresses to its 13th and final use on 1833 LM-3.5, you see that dramatic break at NITE and the cud becomes complete, at which time the die is retired.

    I spotted the remarriage, and felt like it was one I wanted for my set even though I figured PCGS would put a Details-Scratched slab on it. However, I was delighted to see that they felt like its condition was market acceptable as a straight-graded VF35 coin. Images below, just to share the sheer joy I'm experiencing! I'd link you to the True View images, but they haven't even posted those yet; their photo department has "up to 30 days after the coins are returned" to post the images. Quite a backlog. Anyway, I apologize in advance for uploading huge images - I am too n00b to know how to trim them down.

    TL;DR-I bought a rare "details" coin but it's now my set piece for the remarriage.

    1833 LM-3.5 Slab.jpg

    1833 LM-3.5 PCGS 44575598 Obv.JPG 1833 LM-3.5 PCGS 44575598 Rev.JPG
     
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  10. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Wow missed that one duh...you can bet its now on file and wont happen again.
     
    Last edited: Feb 15, 2022
  11. Publius2

    Publius2 Well-Known Member

    Back in October when this coin was first posted by the OP, I just wasn't willing to call it an early state of the retained cud (3.5) although it was clearly at least a late state of the die crack (3.4). If a more experienced collector of H10s than me called it 3.5, then I won't argue with that and I take it as a learning experience.

    Yes, JRCS census calls the 3.5 a R-7. You got a nice coin. The fact that it straight-graded is a great bonus but most of us would be happy to have a details R-7.

    Again, great eye and pickup.
     
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