Russian Heavy Metal

Here is an 1804 Russian 5 Kopeks.

The thing weighs 51 grams! (Almost 2 USA silver dollars!)

It is over 42 mm in diameter!

Does anyone know what the grade of this coin is?

 

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I think you mean "medal"

I wouldn't mind listing to some Russian Heavy Metal

as for grade, no idea. It is damaged on the rim though...

 

It is a coin not a medal.

I really hoped someone (like maybe Siberian Man) would give an opinion as to the grade.

I don't know how badly the rim dings would lower the grade.

Given the weight of the thing, they probably got banged up pretty regularly.

 

For the issue, that is a high end VF, and the rim is in pretty good shape. The minor damage to the reverse does need to be taken into account. One tends to find these pieces in much worse shape, and they are fairly scarce in nice condition.

 

to bad theres no gold or silver coins that big!

 

Thanks Jerome

I was hoping it would make vf!

Without the damage to the reverse and a bit milder rim dings, would you rate it xf?

 

I'm not much of world coin collector, but a VF from 1804 sounds pretty good. If only it was a VF US Coin.

 

Gentlemans, it"s a 5-kopeks coin of Alexander I the Emperor. I am sure that it"s original (not fake - 100%). In my country this coin value about 100-120 $.

 

They tend to sell for the same in VF in the US.

 

Wow

That surprises me.

Krause lists it at $60 USD at VF.

And, I usually think Krause is quite high, and especially so in this market time.

 

Nice looking coin!

 

Krause contents some mistakes in real value of Russian coins.

 

If I make it to 206 years old, I think a few rim dings would be the least of my worries

Very cool coin! Big, too...I don't really know much of Russian dress at that time, but if coins were carried in pockets (like today) I am guessing that denominaiton must have worn through several of them...(Maybe from wearing through pockets, and falling on the ground, is the source of the rim damage?)

 

5 kopeks 1785, Catherine the Great. This coin more large, than Your coin:smile. As for Russian garment in XVIII-XiX centuries - usual European clothes.

 

Here's a coin in very slightly better condition that sold for €116 at auction a while back:

http://www.inumis.com/vso/V00009/russie-alexandre-ier-5-kopeck-1804-ekaterinbourg-a14665.html

Krause is inaccurate.

 

There are heavier copper coins than that - Sweden released huge copper plates that remained in bank vaults. They were so heavy and worthless that when thieves robbed the bank, they took everything away except the plates.

Here's the heaviest 5 kopek that I have in my collection - never found anything heavier than this:



Weighs at 76.4grams which is clearly heavier than the average 50grams 5 kopek. 5.5mm to 6mm thick, which is again almost twice as thick as some of the overstruck 5 kopek examples that I have.

 

Well if you had been attacked by a mugger in them days you could have beaten them to death with those coins LOL super looking as well guy's :bow: One thing I have noticed over the past few years has been the rise in value of even the common Russian coins

 

That coin has to have been cleaned! (But it is nice!)

 

I wish they made that in GOLD!! I think many of the Russian/USSR coins would have been great in Gold.. I made this.. as a fantasy Gold. (Photoshop)

 

Hmm, I was thinking the same, due to the interruption of the patina on the reverse, but the quality makes up for it.