My Swiss Shooting Medals Back from NGC

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by Zohar444, Jan 22, 2010.

  1. hiho

    hiho off to work we go

    1906 Langnau (Bern)
    Richter # 257a
    23mm silver
    1447 struck
    Engraved by Holy Freres
    40 VF/120 UNC in silver
    80 VF/200 UNC in brass

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    NGC says AU-58.
     
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  3. hiho

    hiho off to work we go

    1903 Biel (Bern)
    Richter # 251a
    45mm silver
    693 struck
    Engraved by Holy Freres
    60 VF/180 UNC in silver (251a)
    100 VF/250 UNC in brass (251b)

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    Uncleaned and I find the toning on the bottom of the city view to be quite attractive.
    NGC graded this as MS-64.
     
  4. hiho

    hiho off to work we go

    1910 Bern
    Richter # 263a
    28mm gold (13.8g)
    400 struck
    Engraved by Holy Freres
    250 VF/400 UNC (based on 2005 gold prices)

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    The very first Swiss shooting medal I bought years ago was this in silver, and I still have it. To be able to find one in gold, especially in this condition, was a real treat. NGC called this MS-62. I believe it's actually MS-63, but I am biased.

    Thanks to Rod Moores dad for these three wonderful medals.
     
  5. hiho

    hiho off to work we go

    1911 Lenzburg (Aargau)
    Richter # 33a
    28mm silver
    534 struck
    Engraved by Holy Freres
    40 VF/120 UNC

    This came in it's original case and the details in the womans hair are quite amazing.

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    NGC says MS-65. My photos do NOT do it justice.
     
  6. hiho

    hiho off to work we go

    1908 Faido (Ticino)
    Richter # 1441a
    45mm silver
    125 estimated struck
    Engraved by Holy Freres
    200 VF/400 UNC

    Richter gives this a scarity rating of RR yet I have been told it's probably more like a RRR. (RR = Very Rare, RRR = Less than 10 examples known to exist)

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    My lazy postman never left a delivery notice when he tried to deliver this so it sat at the Post Office for a month while I worried. And worried. And worried. All well that ends well though, right?

    Very difficult to photograph the portrait side of this medal. NONE of my pics were in focus. That's odd.

    NGC graded this as MS-64.
     
  7. hiho

    hiho off to work we go

    1905 Olten (Solothurn)
    Richter # 1127a
    45mm silver
    505 estimated struck
    Engraved by Holy Freres
    60 VF/180 UNC

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    This may well be my favorite Holy Freres design, certainly top 5 out of 50+ at the very least. NGC says MS-65.

    Purchased from Rod Moore Sr, and I can never thank him enough.
     
  8. hiho

    hiho off to work we go

    I have more, but I'll let other's post because I fear I have hijacked this thread.

    I don't want to get banned from Coin Talk...:hammer:
     
  9. Duke Kavanaugh

    Duke Kavanaugh The Big Coin Hunter

    I think you did hijack it hiho lol

    After seeing Zohar's and looking at some of those I have loved them from the start.
    I was thinking the prices were going to be too high and you just can't collect everything.
    But the ones you posted looked very reasonable for those coins.
    Georgous coins.
     
  10. hiho

    hiho off to work we go

    Thanks Duke!

    Since it's been two hours here's a few more...

    A recent addition that I am very proud to own...
    1911 Olten (Solothurn)
    Richter # 1131
    23mm gold
    ??? struck (restrike of R1130a, only 60 of those were produced)
    Engraved by Holy Freres

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    My photos do not do it justice. The fields are flawless and mirror like, easily MS65, maybe better.

    NGC called it MS-63. Oh well...
     
  11. hiho

    hiho off to work we go

    1920 Zofingen (Aargau)
    Richter # 37
    28mm Silver
    Huguenin
    150 minted
    UNC

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    About as nice as you could ever hope to find. Still at NGC.
     
  12. hiho

    hiho off to work we go

    Last one...

    1909 Winterthur (Zurich)
    Richter # 1801
    23mm Silver
    Hans Frei
    78 minted (RR)
    EF

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    One of the most beautiful Schutzenfest medal obverses I have ever seen coupled with an uninspired reverse design. Also still at NGC.
     
  13. Lather

    Lather Time traver Numismatist

    Oh god!! Stop it!! You guys are killing me.. Those are so nice!! ALL OF THEM.. WOW!!! You are gonna trigger my OCD again .. Now I NEED one or Ten.. Or FIFTY!
    Thank you for opening up a whole new world of coins!!!
     
  14. Zohar444

    Zohar444 Member

    hiho - you REALLY have a collection there! Thanks for posting !
     
  15. silvereagle82

    silvereagle82 World Gold Collector

    Zohar .... WOW

    HIHO .... WOW

    Both of you have first class collections:hail:
    The art work on those medals is phenominal ....... Thanks to both of you for sharing your pictures of these beautiful medals :eek:hya:

    I'm sure you both will inspire many more collectors of this series and that is commendable!!
     
  16. Luis

    Luis Senior Member

    amazing stuff! thanks for sharing you two.
     
  17. hiho

    hiho off to work we go

    My pleasure!

    Between the two of us we have a pretty nice Schutzenfest collection. You have concentrated on the pre-1900 classic medals, while I gravitate more towards the post 1900 issues.

    Here is a slightly better photo of the 1911 Gold Olten after it came back from NGC...

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    I need to convince Rod Moore to register at Coin Talk so he can post photos. I have a few dozen shooting medals. He has a few hundred...:cool:
     
  18. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    First class collections for sure!! What a show!! That was great, it was like watching a video of beauty and art. What a bear!! And the ladies!! And the baby, those medals are amazing!! I can not think of a better medium to place art on than one of these coin size medals! Way to go!!
     
  19. NotSure

    NotSure I'm sure I'm NotSure

    I WAS originally going to comment on Zohar's medals, but after going through the entire thread......I can only agree with this:

    You have both opened my eyes to just more than U.S. coins. I have always known/noticed some of the MAJOR artwork on some medals, but really...you two have TOP NOTCH stuff, and it may have just triggered me to start lookin' for some of these medals. EVERY ONE of the posted medals are really gorgeous!!!!! Thank you for sharing these works of art!!
     
  20. yarm

    yarm Junior Member Supporter

    Medal vs coin grading

    Beautiful medals!

    I can't make sense of the grading tho. Can someone who's seen a lot of these comment on NGC's apparent criteria for grading medals (which were never intended to circulate) and large coins like Morgan dollars? Thanks!
     
  21. Zohar444

    Zohar444 Member

    Posting here to consolidate the threads.

    1893 SWISS SHOOTING R-225b, AE, 45mm BERN - BIEL FEST MS 63 BN
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    1863 SWISS SHOOTING R-947b, WM, 52mm NEUCHATEL -CHAUX-D FEST MS 62
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    1895 SWISS SHOOTING R-1756d, AE, 45mm ZURICH - WINTERTH FEST MS 66
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    1901 SWISS SHOOTING R-879b, AR, 45mm LUZERN FEST MS 64
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    1887 SWISS SHOOTING R-628b, AR, 45mm GENEVE FEST MS 64
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    1898 SWISS SHOOTING R-970e, AE, 45mm NEUCHATEL FEST MS 64
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    1898 SWISS SHOOTING R-970c, AR, 45mm NEUCHATEL FEST MS 64
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    1897 SWISS SHOOTING R-1524a, AR, 38mm URI - ALTDORF FEST MS 64
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