1916 Standing Liberty Quarter looks more like a 1917

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Vertigo, Aug 15, 2021.

  1. Vertigo

    Vertigo Did someone say bust?

    So I have spotted this coin on auction. I'm no expert but I believe this is a 1917 in this slab. The rivets on the shield and the left side obverse show the wall lines still. I think the drapery is wrong for the 1916 too. Although it is pretty worn. I have seen this debated before. So let's go with the opinions! Screenshot_20210815-174253_eBay.jpg Screenshot_20210815-174303_eBay.jpg Screenshot_20210815-174425_Gallery.jpg Screenshot_20210815-174441_Gallery.jpg
     
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  3. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    Looks like a 1917 ! The difference in value is insane .:greedy:
     
  4. Vertigo

    Vertigo Did someone say bust?

    The thing that really boggles my mind is that this is in a pcgs slab. I know there's a thread here somewhere and a guy sent a coin to icg and they called it a 1916. It looked like a 1917. Everyone told him to send it to pcgs to have them determine what it was. But here this is.
     
  5. yakpoo

    yakpoo Member

    I don't know how counterfeit slabs work, but I can see someone buying an FR02 1916, cracking it out, then using the label info to create a counterfeit slab with a FR02 1917 coin inside...reselling both for 1916 money.
     
  6. NSP

    NSP Well-Known Member

    Definitely a 1917. It may be good to alert PCGS so they can work toward correcting their error.
     
  7. jtlee321

    jtlee321 Well-Known Member

  8. Vertigo

    Vertigo Did someone say bust?

    Look at this, I think the slab is counterfeit. Look at the hologram on the reverse, compared to the pcgs museum of coin holders. This one was really bugging me...
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  9. Vertigo

    Vertigo Did someone say bust?

    Idk how to alert eBay but someone should
     
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  10. jtlee321

    jtlee321 Well-Known Member

    I think the holder is legit. The holder is a short run of "Dupont" label/holograms they ran in 2014/2015. I think it's just a misattribution. Wouldn't be the first time.
     
  11. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    Assuming the slab is authentic...I would imagine PCGS will call this a mechanical error and not compensate the owner the lost value.
     
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  12. manny9655

    manny9655 Well-Known Member

    I agree, but for a different reason. That's the first PCGS blue slab I've seen where the lettering wasn't centered. The "PCGS FR02" and the "Standing Liberty" are off to the right, the "Standing Liberty" VERY much so.
     
  13. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    The barcode matches the coin#, grade, and cert#, and it verifies. Seems like a lot of work to put an ostensibly real coin into a faked but accurate slab. Simplest answer is that PCGS messed up.
     
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  14. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    I think the thought is it’s a fake slab with a 1917 in it. Put a cheap coin in a fake slab and sell it for $1500.
     
  15. Vertigo

    Vertigo Did someone say bust?

    You're right I found this.
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  16. Vertigo

    Vertigo Did someone say bust?

    I see that too.
     
  17. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    In the example in your last post, the grade, cert# and barcode aren't centered either.
     
  18. Vertigo

    Vertigo Did someone say bust?

    Yes I messaged the seller about this. I sent him the info. He has taken the auction down himself. So idk maybe he even knew they messed up. But a mistake like this is a big mistake. This isn't finding a 1916 hidden in a 1917 slab.
     
  19. Vertigo

    Vertigo Did someone say bust?

  20. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    Looks like the listing has been taken down again. Must have been some reports made.
     
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  21. MIGuy

    MIGuy Well-Known Member

    Interesting, I just read the above on fake slab issue, I didn't see it when I looked at it, which is kind of scary. Good reminder to check the registration number, thanks!
     
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