Featured Roman Coins HOARD

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  1. Black Friar

    Black Friar Well-Known Member

    These showed up at an ANA show a few years back. 20170804_080043.jpg
     
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  3. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Wow, what a truly amazing hoard. The stuff dreams are made of.

    Lordmarcovan had bills to pay.
     
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  4. kazuma78

    kazuma78 Supporter! Supporter

    I had to hold @lordmarcovan at gunpoint lol he has first right of refusal if I ever part with it (though this one is likely to be a forever hold for me)
     
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  5. Black Friar

    Black Friar Well-Known Member

    I'm a dummy, I should have bought the whole hoard. Only purchased 40, but I was able to pick what I felt were the best and encouraged others to stop by the dealers table; after I was done.

    That being said, I had other very good purchases.
     
  6. CoinDoctorYT

    CoinDoctorYT Well-Known Member

    I feel a pinch of jealousy. :)
     
  7. Black Friar

    Black Friar Well-Known Member

    Thanks to Donna L for the info regarding the London Coin Club publication.
     
  8. Heliodromus

    Heliodromus Well-Known Member

    Is the 83,000 coins just a breakdown by mint, or has a detailed listing of individual coins/types been published yet?
     
  9. Ocatarinetabellatchitchix

    Ocatarinetabellatchitchix Well-Known Member

    There was website dedicated to the hoard, but I can't access it...
    http://www.misurata.unict.it/

    Here's a screen shot of it:

    92F5EE2B-877E-4BBF-95A6-36C550D6DB07.jpeg

    And this reference could maybe help you:
    GARRAFFO, S., (1992) Le monete,Quaderni di archeologia della Libya, 15, p. 31-133.
     
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  10. Heliodromus

    Heliodromus Well-Known Member

    Thanks ... Unfortunately I can't access it either, at least at the moment. It says server not found. Google doesn't appear to know about it either.

    Has the website been active recently? I take it it had a listing of all the coins?

    I've googled for information on this hoard a number of times, and there are a few short papers on acedemia.edu by Garraffo, but I've never seen reference to a detailed inventory, either online or in print.
     
  11. Heliodromus

    Heliodromus Well-Known Member

  12. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    No, it never had the coins listed. A couple years ago, it had a membership option and I signed up; but heard back that the site was not active.
     
  13. Heliodromus

    Heliodromus Well-Known Member

    Thanks, Victor.

    At this point, 40 years after discovery, it doesn't seem they are very keen to publish it. I wonder if the hoard itself is still intact...
     
  14. MasterVampire

    MasterVampire Active Member

    Is that bronze or silver?
     
  15. MasterVampire

    MasterVampire Active Member

    That book looks interesting.
    I am mostly interested in silver and gold roman coins - does it have much about those?
     
  16. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    There are about 30 hoards of gold coins only and maybe 50 of gold and silver.

    Also interesting (to me at least) more than 2 dozen hoards with coins of only one emperor.
     
  17. Harry G

    Harry G Well-Known Member

    I only have one coin from a famous hoard, and it's this interesting antoninianus of Probus, TEMPR FELICI (SIC!) reverse

    probus tempr felici.png

    It's from the Linchmere Hoard, found in 1924 :D
     
  18. Heliodromus

    Heliodromus Well-Known Member

    I've tried contacting Sig. Garraffo on academia.edu about the inventory catalog, but no response so far. The lastest update seems to be his 2016 report you quote from which has 83,000 (out of 108,000 total) coins individually attributed and entered into a computer database (by the Italian team doing this work) ... with this information being withheld from public access due to permission not having been given by the Libyan government.

    It's a real shame if this data never sees the light of day, since it contains an unprecedented number of coins from the Rome mint both prior to Constantine's taking control in c.313AD and after. A full 10% of the attributed coins (8,607 out of 82,713) are from the Rome mint from the Constantinian period 313-318 AD.

    All we have in terms of information on individual coins from the hoard are maybe a dozen "rare or unlisted" coins, and a sampler of a couple dozen more common ones. Unfortunately we don't know how complete this published group of unlisted coins is meant to be, nor how good the researchers were in identifying rare/noteworthy Constantinian types.

    From what's been published, what's noteworthy is how *few* unlisted/rare Constantinian reverse types were among the 8,607 Rome mint coins from the 313-318 AD time period. From the "RP" issue of 313 AD there are at least 7 known victory-celebration reverse types (3 unlisted), none of which have been reported from Misurata. From the following "R*P" issue there are 3 reverse types, all unlisted, of which MIsurata only reports two specimens of the "LIBERATOR ORBIS" type, which isn't even that rare (I've recorded over 20 specimens).

    Hopefully the researchers were just kidding with the picture below, but it's rather disconcerting that the detailed catalog is being deliberately withheld.

    Misurata-5.jpg
     
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