The Emperor Game! Can WE do it?

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Gam3rBlake, Sep 29, 2021.

  1. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    That’s a Photoshop template of some kind. I lack the skills and software to do them myself, which is why I’ve switched to a more basic grey gradient background that I can do myself.

    Those “shadowbox” style templates definitely look cool, though. I used to have @Deacon Ray do them for me, or @AncientJoe, from whom that Hadrian came. I believe @TIF uses them as well. @Curtisimo has a really neat background template with sort of a “rippled water” effect (or is it Ryro? One of 'em).
     
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  3. wittwolf

    wittwolf Well-Known Member

    Emperor Antoninus Pius - Sestertius - TR POT XIX COS IIII (Providentia)
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  4. Finn235

    Finn235 Well-Known Member

    I think the clean shaven look was popularized by Alexander the Great. It was how the civilized people distinguished themselves from the barbarians.

    Hadrian brought it back to style and every emperor (except possibly Quintillus) over about 17 had one until Constantine brought the shaved look back. The second wave of shaved stuck around until Phocas, with Julian being a prominent exception.
     
  5. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Speaking of which, before we move on from Antoninus Pius...

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  6. Gam3rBlake

    Gam3rBlake Well-Known Member

    Yes! Thank you! :) I like that coin.

    Marcus Aurelius:
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    Next up: Commodus!

    Also we kinda skipped Lucius Verus since he was like the beta co-emperor of Antoninus Pius and basically did what Pius told him to do as well as died before him.
     
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  7. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Here's Lucius Verus.

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    And Commodus.

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    Smaller pix from my old 2007-08 novice collection.
     
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  8. Gam3rBlake

    Gam3rBlake Well-Known Member

    I got them too! :D

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    Next up: Pertinax!
     
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  9. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    I can't help with that one. :(

    There's some here who can...
     
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  10. Gam3rBlake

    Gam3rBlake Well-Known Member

    Ah gotchya. It’s a shame I don’t have any photoshop skills :(
     
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  11. Gam3rBlake

    Gam3rBlake Well-Known Member

    I believe his coins must be somewhat rare due to his reign being only 3 months no?
     
  12. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Correct. He's a toughie. But they're not unknown, and some CoinTalkers have 'em.

    I ain't one of 'em. I managed to get 110 or so emperors and empresses in my short-lived 2007-08 novice collection (which I was forced to sell when I got laid off in the Recession). I had some relative toughies like Caligula and Otho and Pupienus, but never had Pertinax or any of the really rare birds like Gordian I and II, etc.

    Of course I'm somewhat constrained by an "everyman" budget, too.
     
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  13. Gam3rBlake

    Gam3rBlake Well-Known Member

    Oh wow you had Caligula??

    I used to wonder why his coins were so rare until I was reading Cassius Dio.

    Apparently the cruel Emperor’s coinage was usually melted down and reminted.

    Dio wrote that following the death of Caligula the Senate demonetized his coinage, and ordered that they be melted.

    “Regardless of whether or not this actually occurred, it demonstrates the importance and meaning that was attached to the imagery on a coin. The philosopher Epictetus jokingly wrote: "Whose image does this sestertius carry? Trajan's? Give it to me. Nero's? Throw it away, it is unacceptable, it is rotten."

    I’ve noticed the Roman’s tended to punish with erasing the memory of someone a lot. It’s the same thing as when they subjected someone to “damnatio memoriae” (condemnation of memory) and would destroy any reference to that person.

    Like Caracella doing this to Geta.
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    ..and then this one of Commodus having his name removed.
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  14. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    I've had four Caligulas since 2007. Two succumbed to bronze disease. I've only had two coins ever get bronze disease. Couldn't be some $10 Constantinian. Nope. Both of my BD victims had to be expensive Caligulas! "The Curse of Caligula", I call it.

    This is the first one I had, from that short-lived 2007-08 novice collection. Happily, it was not one of the later BD victims. It lives in Australia now, with a Collectors Universe member.

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    This is the last one I had, in my 2011-2013 Twelve Caesars collection. It too escaped the bronze disease that killed two of my four Caligulas. I don't think it was as nice as that first one I had, though.

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  15. Gam3rBlake

    Gam3rBlake Well-Known Member

    Oh wow that sucks!

    I think that’s one of the reasons I’ve never been a fan of coppers.

    That’s kind of why I chose to stick with denarii. They may tone darker but the coin itself isn’t damaged via toning.
     
  16. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Yeah, but Caligula in silver is not something likely to happen on MY budget!

    Sorry for the brief derailment, everyone. Guess we're still waiting on someone to produce a Pertinax to move things along.
     
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  17. Julius Germanicus

    Julius Germanicus Well-Known Member

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    IMP CAES P HELV PERTINAX AVG - laureate Head of Pertinax right
    PROVIDENTIAE DEORUM COS II S C - Providentia standing left, holding up right hand to large star, left hand on breast
    RIC 22, BMCRE 28, C 52, Sear 6055, Banti 20, Woodward Pl. 12,1 (these dies)
    Sestertius, Rome, ca. late Jan-28.Mar 193 (second emission of Pertinax)
    30 mm / 21,06 gr
    (ex Stack´s Coin Galleries Sale 17.07.2002, Lot 420)
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    Next: Didius Julianus
     
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  18. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    There he is!

    Didius Julianus is, of course, another one I never had.
     
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  19. DonnaML

    DonnaML Well-Known Member

    The story is that Hadrian adopted the full beard because he was such a Grecophile, and the Greeks prior to Alexander (unlike the Romans) traditionally wore them.

    None of the three people you mention wore beards. Surely you've seen their likenesses on coins and statues?
     
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  20. Gam3rBlake

    Gam3rBlake Well-Known Member

    Yeah there are some Emperors like that where I’ve never seen a coin of theirs outside the HA Auctions where they sell for thousands or tens of thousands of dollars.

    I imagine that the very last Emperors would have rare coinage too due to the chaos going on during the Crisis of the Third Century.
     
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  21. Gam3rBlake

    Gam3rBlake Well-Known Member

    Oh yeah I have and that’s why I assumed they were beardless.

    But at the same time I didn’t want to assume they stayed beardless for life.

    I figured the coins were made at a certain point in time and that they were beardless then but maybe before or after they had beards or just at some point.
     
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