Who wants to play "Raised" or "Recessed" & "Mint Made" or "Not?"

Several coin edges are posted. Is the OBVIOUS characteristic raised or recessed? Is it something done at the Mint or after the coin was struck? Reasons...What do you see to back up your opinion for each?

 

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• #1 is raised. I think it was pinched in a bezel or something similar.
• #2 is recessed. It appears to be post mint damage. it was cut into because I can see the excess metal around the damage.
• #3 is recessed but only slightly so. That coin was coated with lacquer or shellac and what you see are bubbles that wore away exposing untarnished circles.
• #4 is raised. The only rationale I can give that it may be remnants of solder or something similar but I am not confident in that because the edge otherwise appears pristine.

 

First is raised, Mint made
Second is recessed and damage.
Third is neither, there is corrosion around the clean copper spots.
Fourth is raised collar issue.

 

Are you guys positive? You may have answered too quickly with a first impression.

 

I am only 100% confident on #2 and #3..... In my years of collecting experience I never bridged the gap on errors and varieties so #1 and #4 are a bit of a mystery to me.

 

#1 - raised. It looks like the remains of some sort of mount, so post-mint
#2 - recessed. Hard to picture what the mint might have done, or, for that matter, why; so, post-mint
#3 - raised. Could have come from some irregularity in the collar. Can’t imagine how/why someone might have done it
post-mint, so: as struck
#4 - recessed. Looks post-mint, possibly from mount removal.

What say you?

 

No, I’m not positive; just blurting out first impressions. That’s why I asked for your elucidation.

 

Looks like a collar cud.

 

#1 there is a raised piece in a recessed groove.

 

I will go with this one .

 

#1 Post mint, Remnants of a mount, looks to be raised and almost separated from the edge.
#2 Recessed, a strike through in the third die which has also moved the metal of the reed to it's right.
#3 I can only surmise added post mint, and whatever the remnant is is raised and it has been worn smooth
#4 Raised, broken third die (die chip)

 

I don't play this game any more after looking at extreme close-ups of the individual letters of LIBERTY on many Morgan dollars. They will look both raised and recessed depending on the degree of magnification.

 

The shadows tell the story to me.

 

Inspector43, posted: "The shadows tell the story to me"

This post tells us...

You may or may not be on the right track.

Please clue us all in to WHAT the story is. I don't think any of us can read your mind.

 

I agree with Randy's first assessment.

 

1. Both raised and recessed. Looks like a deep cut that pushed the metal outwards. The lighting is deceptive, but that’s how I interpret the image.

2. Recessed. The metal movement at the rim implies post-strike damage.

3. Bubbles in glue adhered to the edge. The metal of the coin is neither raised nor recessed. The glue is raised relative to the metal. The bubbles are recessed relative to the glue.

4. Raised. Collar cud. Mint made as such.

 

recessed all, except #3,where I agree that it's a bubble dimple. On #1 I t5hink that I see the displaced metal sticking off the edge, #2 the cut walls into the reeding, #3 mashed in reeding

 

Answer to the easy ones first...

#2 is a recessed mark that cuts into the edge reeds possibly to check the coins authenticity. There are lines in its center and at the top of the mark some metal has been pushed up and out.

#3 Lacquered coin. There is a raised layer on parts of the surface. The round holes are where bubbles in the liquid popped. So the lacquer is raised and the holes are recessed down to the original surface of the edge.

The others may be more difficult. Later...

 

#1 looks recessed at the edges and raised in the center, like some metal was pinched.
#4 seems to pose a lot of problems for folks with respect to perception. I'm seeing it as recessed, as if the edge took a hit, with some metal pushed up above the rim and the reed to the right bending in towards the damage. I think.

 

#4 is recessed near the top and raised near the bottom. The raised metal near the bottom was somehow pushed down from the top.