Word to the wise about capsules...

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Vertigo, Sep 30, 2021.

  1. Vertigo

    Vertigo Did someone say bust?

    So I have this 1825/4 quarter i bought. I didn't have a proper air tite for the larger size quarter at the time i got it. So I placed it in a half dollar one for the time being. I also have 2 other capped bust half dollars i did this to. With them I removed the foam ring from a half and put them in it. This left the 3 loose in the air tite. The halves didn't get it as bad as this quarter did though. I spotted a mark on one and removed it and was puzzled why it had a mark. Then I got this one out the other day. It has been in there about 3 months as I removed the container holding it to add/remove coins. As you can see the obverse and reverse. Right in the center. And even the capsule. I'm glad this was a lowball quarter. I hate using flips because I had a similar thing happen to a coin in one. So I guess this will be a lesson to use proper holders with foam that hold the coin in place inside. So before it happens to you....
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  3. cplradar

    cplradar Talmud Chuchum

    Did you shake it?
     
  4. Vertigo

    Vertigo Did someone say bust?

    I only pulled it out of the safe about 5 or 6 times. Just adding other coins. Nothing more than small movements.
     
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  5. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    Hmm. Well, it didn't just scratch itself . :rolleyes:
    Good thing it's not in MS condition or anything . I mean it still has value though, correct ? :happy:
     
  6. Vertigo

    Vertigo Did someone say bust?

    I'm just glad the halves weren't hurt like this. Glad it was lowball.
     
  7. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    The airtite you have pictured appears to be of poor quality, and there seems to be a spot in the center that is circular and raised. This is probably what caused the damage to the coin.

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    When I was actively collecting, I would buy AirTites (original brand) by the caseload from Jerry at JP's Corner. I used, both, those with and those without the beauty rings. No disk ever had the circular pattern that yours shows, and I never had a coin damaged by one of them.

    I don't know where you bought your supply of airtites, but maybe you should make sure that they are the original brand of AirTites if they are still available. I've never heard of someone making a "knock-off" of a 50c piece of plastic, but I guess that anything is possible.
     
  8. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I suspect that what we see on the coin, and what we on the holder, were both caused by the coin sliding around inside the holder.

    In other words, I suspect that holder was crystal clear when the the coin was put inside it.

    Can the OP confirm that ?
     
  9. Vertigo

    Vertigo Did someone say bust?

    I took the foam ring out that would hold the proper coin inside. This wasn't the proper size for what I needed. This was the only bust quarter I had and didn't have an air tite that fit. This was for a half dollar and I took the foam ring out. This was temporary. I've only had this coin about 2 months. It wasn't even in this thing long. They came from hobby lobby
     
  10. Vertigo

    Vertigo Did someone say bust?

    Yes it was a brand new holder. The coin was loose and moved around inside but not like deliberate shaking. Just removing the container it was in to add other coins
     
  11. Vertigo

    Vertigo Did someone say bust?

    All I'm saying is it didn't take much to do what it did. Just advising others not to cut the same corner i did
     
  12. Mac McDonald

    Mac McDonald Well-Known Member

    Been using various round caps for eons/years...those with retainer rings and those without (Guardhouse, Airtite, another or two), to include also the Whitman 2x2 snaps which have a bit of play in them (essentially "rattlers" like the old PCGS slabs). However, have always used the correct size...never improvised bigger for smaller, etc. In all my years with these have never had an issue...none. Sometimes what we think or recall as not much use...shaking, in and out for various reasons, traveling with them (they shake more than you realize), and of course if not correct size for the coin...is actually more than we realize. I don't know...I'm just saying it happens this way sometimes...doesn't seem like much but it is...of one kind or combination of things. I suspect this...or an inferior or damaged holder (or coin)...might be the issue. If quality and proper-sized holders...used properly and movement kept to a careful minimum...just about any capsules or other holders will not damage coins...but ring-tites or similar work best, as in the TPG holders. Also wonder about the thickness of that particular coin. I had some trouble with older IHC in some holders once...too thick for covers to fit flush and they rested ever-slightly on the coins...not good. Indeed good to be cautious and sometimes hard to know/figure, but a better/proper/stationary fit is key.
     
  13. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Doug, I agree that movement of the coin in the holder probably caused the damage, but that little circle that we see on the airtite is too perfect than to be anything but the result of the manufacturing process.
     
  14. RogerC

    RogerC Well-Known Member

    This to me sounds very plausible because the scratches are on the center of the coin and not the high points.
     
    Last edited: Sep 30, 2021
  15. kountryken

    kountryken Well-Known Member

    I "liked" your post. Obviously, the warning, not the fact that your coin was damaged. I've got to go check now, and see if I have any in the wrong size? I don't think so, but I can't say "no" for sure.
    Thanks for the "heads up".
     
  16. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    Good information, thank you!
     
  17. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

    Ouch! Hope you've checked other coins in that same type of holder.
     
  18. CoinCorgi

    CoinCorgi Tell your dog I said hi!

    If you put a coin in an oversized airtite, then either use an appropriate foam ring or cut up a few pieces of foam to prevent the rattling.
     
  19. Vertigo

    Vertigo Did someone say bust?

    I got some of these for my CBH but haven't used them yet. Has anyone used this brand with no problems? I guess at this point I want to ask. These don't have a foam ring. And yes I know it was a complete mistake. Glad I learned the lesson cheaply. Mainly wanted to inform others about the potential cost of cutting corners.
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  20. Vertigo

    Vertigo Did someone say bust?

    And this was the ones that I used that caused the problem. Although I think it was a quarter one I used and took the foam ring out of. But this brand. These come from the hobby lobby. Used properly with proper coins I've had no issues.
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  21. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank


    pretty expensive, esp if they damage your coins.

    but, 50 cents each ...
     
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