How do you grade Susan's

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Pickin and Grinin, Sep 27, 2021.

  1. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Half way in between an Ike and a Nickel. They tend to get a lot of wheel marks,
    At least that was only at the beginning of the hunt/study. The 79 sets were mostly what I was after, I do have to say that the 80 sets were impressive. Then he said I will give you the 83 Philly, for the same price 4$ a set.
    So, 47 souvenir sets. 42 of the 47 were 1980 dollar souvenir sets 13 of them mint envelope, 4 - 79's only one in a mint envelope, and the 83 Philly set, not a mint envelope. When I get to the Quarter I will take the better photos.
    Back to the SBA's.

    I would like to see how many clad folks we have out there,
    Only 24 of the 80 will become a tip or a pack of cigarettes.
    Here is what I bought.
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    I want to take an uneducated photo with a cell phone of two heavily abraded S mint's.
    But I think that they are better photo'd thru the lens of a camera, than cellophane.
    Lets start out this thread with what everyone knows about the SBA.
    What do you find attractive, is it the luster, is it the strike, what don't you find attractive. How about we give this conversation a few days and let me get photos.
    This is a series that doesn't get much attention.

    I have a lot of coins to go thru, and hope that you all go thru it with me..I need to empty a coin tray and have at it. Move back down to the camera
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    We have found the end of my thread. I would hope that we get opinions from Insider,
    definitely Cplradar. The guy has an eye for clads.


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    The above:
    These are specifically reserved for mint damage, die deterioration, planchet striations,
    rough planchets, interesting toning, Make sure you look at the strike first.
     
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  3. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    I really didn't think that I posted this thread yet. I will get down to the camera as soon as I can to take some photos. Hopefully this evening.
     
  4. Long Beard

    Long Beard Well-Known Member

    You are correct in that this series deserves a bit more attention. I myself collect them, and for some reason prefer a slight tone as opposed to bright sheen. Like that in your tray, bottom row- second from the end. Overall, a nice grouping you have there.
     
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  5. Mannie gray

    Mannie gray Member

    Top row, 2nd coin from left looks really nice, 66+ish
     
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  6. CoinCorgi

    CoinCorgi Tell your dog I said hi!

    What about SBA's is this thread about?
     
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  7. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Almost everyone of those have a form of mint damage, Wheel damage maybe heavy bag damage. Maybe an, encouragable toner. Might be a couple of days. I have been flirting with the neighbor, no her name is not Susan. LOL

    There were plenty of beautiful Susan's in this bunch though, might even be a 67.
    The first will be a couple Abraded S mints.
     
  8. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Gem, needs to be contact free, From what I have seen is Zero high point wear.
    Light on bag marks. You need to be able to discern between mint damage and bag damage, I am opposed to the thought that the mint gets relieved from the damage that some of these coins receive.
    Next weekend is probably when I get back to this thread.
    Can't wait to photo the abraded die obverses.
     
  9. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    It's about how to find high grade specimens.
     
  10. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    No justice!
     

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  11. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    How do you grade Susan's


    I don't.

    I'd rather spend them
     
  12. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    I was expecting that as one of the responses, I have always thought the same.
     
  13. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank


    :)
     
  14. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    I promised the abraded S mints.
    The eye is what jumped out first.
    Couldn't believe that the next set I opened had the same abrasion.
    There is evidence of a clash neck/bun area.

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    Early die stage
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    One of these is a later die stage than the other.
    Which is the earliest and why?
     
  15. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    I really would like to get into a discussion over winter on why these coins grade what they do by the TPG's, and what is your opinion on what they should grade, I have 160 of these strait from souvenir packs. There are some toning beauties among the small hoard.
    Here is a pastel Blue.
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    And one slightly going Golden,
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