Guess the Grade on my Susan B. Anthony Impulse Buy

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  1. Grbose

    Grbose CoinSpace.com CEO

    Hard to tell from these photos but based on your comments I'll go MS64
     
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  3. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    MS-65, but the reverse looks somewhat different. Is it possible that a reverse proof die was used? I see this one is a D, so don't know if that was feasible.

    Jim
     
  4. borgovan

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  5. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    Call me daft, but somehow it looks like cameo or prooflike surfaces that have been obliterated by the scanner.

    Otherwise I see nothing special about it. Your average MS-64 SBA.
     
  6. Joshycfl

    Joshycfl Senior Member

    I'll care to guess Anacs graded it MS65 PL, only because I know you like PL Business strike coins and the only reason I can see you purchasing it :)
     
  7. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    Many of you guessed it - this coin is graded 64 PL. Looking at the NGC Census, the only prooflike dates they have graded are on the 1999's, so I'm going to try and cross it over and have my first pop 1 coin. I don't have it in hand yet, just ordered it yesterday, so I will be able to tell you more, and post my pics, when it comes. The prooflike qualities don't appear as strong on the obverse, but the reverse appears to be very strong, with possible cameo. Normally, I wouldn't look twice at a 1980D SBA, especially not in 64 - but everything you thought you knew about scarcity, price, value, and grading sort of goes out the window when you're talking about prooflikes. For this coin, I can readily and easily overlook a mark in the eagles wings - because I know I'll never find another.
     

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  8. Joshycfl

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    If you don't mind me asking, what do you consider cheap?
     
  9. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    I paid $150 for it.
     
  10. Joshycfl

    Joshycfl Senior Member



    We will be waiting to see quality pictures from you soon :)
     
  11. borgovan

    borgovan Supporter**

    Get outta here.
     
  12. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    Find me another one for cheaper. Heck, I'll settle for just find me another one. Odds are in my favor that you can't. How much would you pay for an R8 coin, that is, unique or nearly so?
     
  13. cladking

    cladking Coin Collector

    It's almost certainly a mint set coin. The reverse appears PL which isn't extremely rare. I'll guess it's a MS-66 because of chicken scratching but ANACS gave itr a 69.
     
  14. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Well good luck on the cross over. Keep us updated.
     
  15. borgovan

    borgovan Supporter**

    Hey...I'm not knocking your coins. People are into different things, and believe me, collecting Jefferson nickels I understand the rarity of prooflike.

    It's just going to be difficult getting the crossover, that's all.

    I'm sure there are enough SBA collectors to absorb a census of 1 coin.
     
  16. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    I definitely wouldn't crack it when you send it in for the crossover... I'm also not sure they will cross the PL designation. So don't crack it if the PL makes the coin... or you might just get an nice MS64 back.
     
  17. bhp3rd

    bhp3rd Die varieties, Gems

    Since when did modern "Prooflike" designation be so meaningful???

    Since when did modern "Prooflike" designations become so meaningful???
    Esp. a MS-64??? - I mean I might see that kind of money for a MS-68 (not from a mint set) "Prooflike" in a PCGS holder, (I still would never buy it) but never this one in a million years.
    Don't get me wrong and it's your coin and your choice but this is so far "out there" as to be fiction or "what am I missing"???
    It might be a $150 dollar coin where you come from but the price I mentioned of $1.50 is what you get down here, if that.
    Please tell me what I am missing?????????
     
  18. jerseycat10

    jerseycat10 Peace Dollar Connoisseur

    When performing this kind of crossover, can you tell the new TPG not to crack if they don't intend of applying the PL attribution?
     
  19. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    I will say 66!!
     
  20. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Yes.
     
  21. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    The seller actually did a pretty good job with pictures of this beautiful coin. It arrived in the mail this afternoon, and I love it. The obverse is not as strongly mirrored, but the reverse looks every bit of a Cameo Proof. The strike is also quite strong - what SBA collectors call "Full Talons" (incidentally, Full Talons are rather difficult on the 80D, but not as bad as the 80S). I have no doubts whatsoever that this coin would cross to an NGC PL holder, will probably get the * for the cameo reverse, and I would probably grade it 65. TPG's are very hard on prooflike coins though, so it might only be a 64. Whatever the grade, this is a unique, one of a kind, very special coin - even if it is an SBA.

    Quick note to bhp3rd - PCGS will only designate PL on Morgans. NGC will designate on all series. Looking at the NGC Census, there are no SBA's graded PL from 1979 to 1981 (and only 10 from 1999). Semi-pl SBA's might be semi-common - but one with deep mirrors and a fully cameo'd reverse is anything but common.

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